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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#11602: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:18:53 PM

You know, the great part about Tarble is it makes total sense than no one mentioned him before then. Vegeta and his father thought he was a failure, so they exiled him and denied his existence. Vegeta would have never admitted Tarble was alive. He was just a weakling, after all. And by the time he underwent character development, he assumed he would never meet him again.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11603: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:21:41 PM

Also, having a high power level wouldn't mean kid!Vegeta knew what the hell he was doing or was adept at maneuvering the game of monkey posturing.

edited 10th Mar '15 3:21:56 PM by unnoun

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#11604: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:25:54 PM

All this debate over a fan-character who is basically Vegeta's mom being portrayed as capable of intimidating both King and Prince when characters hundreds and even thousands of times more powerful than Chi Chi are still demonstrably afraid of her.

Toriyama brought this gag to Dragon Ball well before stupidoomdoodles decided to play with it.

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#11605: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:27:36 PM

Umm, how does the comic contradict anything? It just shows Vegeta being cowed into behaving (which is the entire joke), not being weaker.

[nja] I see Tobias agrees with my point

edited 10th Mar '15 3:28:42 PM by JonnasN

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#11606: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:30:20 PM

[up][up]Because nerds gonna nerd.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11607: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:34:45 PM

Did you know that "geek" originally meant someone who would gnaw the heads off of chickens? Because I did. Used to be an act in the circus.

Cockbites.

edited 10th Mar '15 3:41:46 PM by unnoun

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#11608: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:57:12 PM

Yeah, pretty much. If I wanted to see characters I like being flanderized into barely-recognizable caricatures of themselves, I'll watch Teen Titans Go. AYO!

Anyway, real comedy is when everyone is in-character. The problem with "HAHAHA SO RANDOM" type humor is you could replace the characters it's using with anybody else and nothing changes.

@Chi-Chi scaring other characters: it's in-character for Roshi, Bulma, Yamcha and Krillin to be afraid of being chewed out by her. You don't see Piccolo, Vegeta, Buu etc caring. lol

edited 10th Mar '15 4:01:15 PM by Cruherrx

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11609: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:03:50 PM

I don't think you know what "random" humor is.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11610: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:07:03 PM

Yeah, I can't help but zone out when people start going on about what real [[insert whatever]] is.

edited 10th Mar '15 4:07:18 PM by LSBK

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#11611: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:11:24 PM

Good thing a sense of humor changes depending on the person.

That comic would've been funny if Vegeta was the little sociopath he is constantly portrayed as being at that age, and the comic writer did the necessary stuff to make it work. Staying true to characters, while playing it funny is the sign of great comedy. It's largely why YGOTAS is so derided, while DBZA (yeah, they turn the personalities up to 11 in most cases, but that's better than changing everything completely) is so lauded.

And from what I've seen you link, it's all "SO RANDOM" humor. But, you know, more power to that person since they're actually making content while I'm just here critiquing.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11612: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:14:07 PM

The Geek is not that thing that was described. The Geek is a shitty movie that happens to be the source for the "One day I'm gonna get that filthy animal" meme.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11613: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:20:26 PM

I mean, the franchise has kinda portrayed Vegeta as a vain little shit before.

And, I mean.

Beautiful.

Sandwhiches.

Science.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#11614: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:27:37 PM

[up]See? That scene works and is hilarious because it's not just a random gag. It was built up since the moment Vegeta got talked to by King Kai and we saw how desperate he was to keep Beerus from destroying Earth. He was in-character, and that's what made it hilarious. You could see the shame.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11615: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:34:56 PM

[up][up] I was just reading that "science" story. For one, I haven't done biology for years, but I assume this person knew what they were talking about. It actually sounded cool. And yeah, using real-life logic, Saiyan hybrids wouldn't be able to have kids. If that was true in canon, it would have made Videl's announcement that she was pregnant in Battle of Gods even more amazing that it actually was. They practically won because of a miracle.

edited 10th Mar '15 4:35:38 PM by LOLypop1224

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#11616: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:42:33 PM

I very much see Piccolo caring about what Chi-Chi has to say. Why else would he cave in and go get that driver's license, huh?tongue

Either way, that comic wasn't lol-random humour. It's a wild mass guess-related joke (that Vegeta had some sort of authority figure reigning him in back when he was a child, a Saiyan version of Chi-Chi).

We should be chill about those kinds of jokes, instead of calling them "not real humour".

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11617: Mar 10th 2015 at 4:46:46 PM

We don't see much of Vegeta when he was younger.

Calling him a sociopath seems a bit premature.

He was probably vain and a jerk. Liked to fight, wanted to kill things. Big on pride.

On the other hand, Raditz and Nappa both survived 20+ years.

edited 10th Mar '15 4:47:16 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11618: Mar 10th 2015 at 5:47:08 PM

Oh, sons was a typo of mine. I meant to just say "son" because that information was either pre-Tarble (daizenshuu) or talking about the manga (interview).

I was just trying not to say Vegeta too many times to avoid confusion.

On Chi-Chi bossing stronger people around... you forget that Goku consistently ignores her, Gohan told her to shut up when she tried to boss him, and the human characters who are afraid of her are quite meek (or even weaker than her, like Bulma). Toriyama didn't write the stuff about her being "lol so scary".

In character humour is the best humour. Cru hit the nail on the head with how you can just replace the characters if the jokes are too far removed from their characterizations.

I won't say they're not real humour/comedy, but they are unfunny and boring.

edited 10th Mar '15 5:48:28 PM by Saiga

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#11619: Mar 10th 2015 at 5:56:24 PM

Yeah, most of the stuff where Chi-Chi is the Vagina of terror is, well...filler.

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#11620: Mar 10th 2015 at 5:57:33 PM

You guys sure like to suck out the fun out of things, don't you?

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11621: Mar 10th 2015 at 6:17:44 PM

[up][up][up] Well, except that part in the Buu Saga where Goku doesn't offer Chi-Chi for the Elder Kai's...whatever he wanted. Doesn't he offer Bulma because Chi-Chi would kill him? (Not literally).

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11622: Mar 10th 2015 at 6:29:31 PM

She could probably poison him.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#11623: Mar 10th 2015 at 6:37:29 PM

He probably respects his wife more than that, and remembers that Bulma tried to seduce him when he was twelve.

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#11624: Mar 10th 2015 at 6:39:55 PM

I don't think Goku ever realized or would care that Bulma tried to seduce him when he was 12, and he certainly wouldn't hold it against her. For similar reasons, I don't think Goku even realized there was anything wrong with quasi-prostituting one of his friends. He's just not a very sexual creature.

If anything from those days contributed to his decision, it would be the precedent she set when she flashed Kamesennin in exchange for a Dragon Ball, but even that's not terribly likely.

edited 10th Mar '15 6:40:19 PM by TobiasDrake

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11625: Mar 10th 2015 at 6:41:14 PM

I thought the reason he didn't offer Chichi was because she's flat-chested.


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