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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#11576: Mar 9th 2015 at 12:02:28 PM

Man, I've never disagreed with the kanzenshuu podcast as much as I disagreed with their defenses of some of the plot/logic-breaking of Revival of F.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11577: Mar 9th 2015 at 2:34:56 PM

It's the same as the thread, same weak defences being echoed over and over.

Anyway Earth's Special Forces means nothing here as that doesn't even come close to what Xenoverse has. So the fact that it has explosions doesn't mean XV could have, they're entirely different beasts.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#11578: Mar 9th 2015 at 2:38:22 PM

I'm still keeping an open mind. After all, until the movie is aired and translated, we don't know for sure what's going to happen.

I just hope they address some of the inconsistencies. And I have a feeling they will. They keep bringing the problems up in the in-character blog posts. It's not like they didn't realise there were problems.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11579: Mar 9th 2015 at 3:13:34 PM

[up][up]ESF did have relevance in the argument because the reasons brought up were just plain nonsensical.

Some said that Xenoverse lacks destructible environments and big flashy explosions because it was designed for PS 3 and 360, so hardware limitations or the like prevent them from going all out, when it is simply idiotic.

Xenoverse has no DBZ-like explosions because they decided to not have DBZ-like explosions. Whether it was a choice made due to time constraints or simply because they're fucking stupid, I don't know.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11580: Mar 9th 2015 at 3:16:25 PM

No, it's not idiotic. The game already has framerate issues on the old gen consoles without flashy explosions.

It's not that they can't put those explosions on the old gen at all. It's that they can't put flashy explosions and everthing else on without hurting performance.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11581: Mar 9th 2015 at 4:36:02 PM

Having seen the kind of graphics that the PS 3 can be capable of, I doubt it's a hardware limitation.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11582: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:08:05 PM

There are many factors, including budget and time, and the bottom line is that it's a fact that the older gen versions suffer when too much is going on during the combat.

You can't just compare it to completely different games.

edited 9th Mar '15 7:08:35 PM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11583: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:37:50 PM

I can compare it when earlier, more primitive games made by people on their free time who never got paid for any of it can do something and the multi-million dollar professional videogame made for the cutting edge technology of today can't.

You can't even tell me that it's that big a flipping deal. I'm not even asking for super fancy explosions. How about big brown dust clouds, the kind which abound in Dragon Ball? How about large white domes? I can't tell you how hard they'd have been to program into the game, but given everything else they did, I doubt it'd have been super difficult for them, and I doubt it'd be super difficult for the consoles to keep up with.

It's like making a Naruto RPG and instead of programming in Sakura's techniques taking less chakra in order to portray her superior chakra control, instead they make her have more Chakra than Naruto.

There's having to give up on certain stuff because of time and budget limits and then there's just plain not caring.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11584: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:49:02 PM

No, you can't. Because those games didn't have any where near as much in them as XV does.

It's not like that example at all. Sakura's chakra level doesn't effect performance at all.

You're just saying you doubt it and shit but You. Don't. Know.

The games are already at their limit. Any additional effects would have their impact on performance.

So they chose not to add more.

edited 9th Mar '15 7:50:44 PM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11585: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:58:51 PM

I've seen the PS 3 do more graphically impressive shit with less lag. That's what makes me doubt it. I know the PS 3 can do better than that. I don't have a 360, but hell, I doubt it's much weaker than the PS 3.

Let's be fair, the most likely reason the last gen versions are inferior in the performance department is probably less because of the game having a lot of shit and more because it's a shitty port.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11586: Mar 10th 2015 at 12:58:11 AM

That's not being fair at all. That's making a wild assumption and you're probably comparing it to AAA titles or some nonsense.

This is pretty normal for licensed games. The Naruto Storm games have lower graphics and are less busy than Xenoverse and still have framrate drops.

edited 10th Mar '15 12:59:25 AM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11588: Mar 10th 2015 at 10:28:05 AM

[up][up]It ain't a movie licensed game, pushed out as fast as possible to capitalize on the success of a movie. That was Battle of Z.

No matter how you want to defend it, the fact of the matter is that it's almost entirely certain that they could have done better, but didn't.

And guess what?

As a customer who paid AR$ 899 for a copy of the game, I have a goddamn right to whine and complain about its failings.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#11589: Mar 10th 2015 at 10:54:42 AM

Looks like Yamcha and Tien are going to be mentors once the first DLC of Xenoverse comes out, according to the pre-DLC patch.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11590: Mar 10th 2015 at 10:57:26 AM

Hey, I haven't checked out the poses, is there a Yamcha's Death Pose pose?

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Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
I'd totally hug you if that was something I did
#11591: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:20:22 AM

Yes it's pose #26 called Play Dead. It's also one of Yamcha's moves.

Seems like a step down to go from training with Beerus and Goku to training with Yamcha.

Also, is there a reason I can't see that i've purchased the Season Pass? I can see that I have the Day One stuff installed but not the SP. I only want to see it because I want to ensure that I have it. I bought the season pass on Amazon and entered the code in the store and it said the code was excepted and I had the pass, the SP was even removed from the list of buyable things in the PS store. I'm assuming I have it and everythings good but is there anyway to confirm this? Before anyone says something like "it's the same as with the PS 3" or something, the last Sony product I owned before the PS 4 was the PS 2 so I have no idea how things worked before.

edited 10th Mar '15 11:27:14 AM by Raven666

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11592: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:54:03 AM

Hah. That's awesome.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#11593: Mar 10th 2015 at 12:49:12 PM

Eh, not funny to me. Completely ignores the fact that Vegeta surpassed King Vegeta as a child, meaning he was stronger than every single Saiyan alive at that point.

The best jokes are the ones where everyone is in-character.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#11594: Mar 10th 2015 at 12:54:56 PM

So, not a single joke that Stupidoomdoodles has ever made.

My various fanfics.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11595: Mar 10th 2015 at 2:47:49 PM

I don't think you two soulless automatons understand the characters or have a sense of humor.

Also, King Vegeta wasn't necessarily the strongest in terms of power level.

And I don't see what the hell bullshit like power levels has to do with whether or not anyone's in character anyway.

edited 10th Mar '15 2:53:31 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11596: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:02:41 PM

Understanding the characters is what makes it unfunny.

King Vegeta is officially the strongest Saiyan before Vegeta surpasses him.

Strength and strength comparisons plays a huge part in how characters act. It's why Vegeta goes from arrogant and jovial to angry and touchy when he goes from being on top to lagging behind.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11597: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:04:41 PM

Where does it explicitly say King Vegeta was the strongest?

I mean. If strength was really all that matters to Saiyans in terms of leadership:

Well, first, Vegeta would have given his title to Kakarot after Buu.

And, second, our Vegeta would have taken his father's throne before he died.

It turns out that Saiyans aren't actually stupid enough to give their planet over to an 8-year-old.

I'm surprised too.

edited 10th Mar '15 3:06:54 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11598: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:09:13 PM

I never made the claim that strength alone determines rank.

King Vegeta is described that way in the Daizenshuu, and him and his sons are also categorized as the only elites - the highest class in terms of battle power.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11599: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:10:55 PM

[up] Well the daisushi or whatever is clearly full of shit because Tarble was sent away for being such a weakass.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11600: Mar 10th 2015 at 3:14:28 PM

That makes no sense. The Daizenshuu said nothing about Tarble, just that King Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan and kid Vegeta surpassed him.

I have no idea what you're even getting at.

edited 10th Mar '15 3:14:48 PM by Saiga


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