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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11526: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:32:49 PM

When Piccolo fused with Kami he was stronger than a normal Super Saiyan. And Frieza.

If he had the Kaioken he could have beaten Cell maybe.

Especially if he got the multiplications.

edited 7th Mar '15 8:33:20 PM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11527: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:37:02 PM

You know, it has recently struck me that Gohan and Krillin's powerup might not actually have been gradual at all.

They were much weaker when they fought the Ginyu force, for sure, but...

... They were also exhausted, now that I think about it. They were moving around and perpetually tense just as much as Vegeta was. They had to be just as exhausted. Their powerlevel might have actually changed to what we see later directly after they took the Senzu Bean Goku gave them, which was after the Ginyu Force fight. The only opponent they face following that is Ginyu, and it's clear that the only reason Ginyu lasts as long as he did against them was because Ginyu is getting used to Goku's body fairly fast and both Krillin and Gohan were hesitating because it was Goku's body.

By the way, I think Xenoverse 2 should have God Hand's combo customization system.

You played that? If you haven't, go do it. It's a game about punching people. And it's glorious. If you don't like super hard beat'em ups, though, watch a let's play or something. The combo customization on that is amazing, and it's exactly what I want out of a DBZ game.

It has five 'square' moves, though whether they flow into one another is up to you. You could put five high impact and slow moves if you wanted to. It also has moves assigned to the X and triangle buttons, though only one move for triangle and two for X, one normal and the other used while pulling back. (pulling back and using triangle executes an uppercut used to juggle enemies.)

Point is, we'd get to make our own combo, and making it good would be up to us. In God Hand, you could make all sorts of viable combinations that could be as flashy as you liked, and add in situational moves mapped to Triangle or X that could be used to break guards, perform leg sweeps, launchers, etc.

edited 7th Mar '15 8:41:14 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11528: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:39:29 PM

Also Gohan probably got a Zenkai or three.

I don't like using random ass Japanese words but god that's easy to type.

edited 7th Mar '15 8:40:00 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11529: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:43:12 PM

I don't like the term either, but I tried out "near death power up" and it was a too much of a pain to keep up. And that's already shorthand.

The Senzu bean wouldn't have done it. Vegeta was exhausted and the Senzu bean didn't fix that, he had to take a nap after that.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11530: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:48:10 PM

Getting to rest probably helped, yeah.

Gohan also had the shit kicked out of him by Frieza and Dende helped him out there.

Granted, Krillin's power boost can't be explained by Zenkais.

Going from barely managing Guldo to standing up to Frieza and surviving for most of the fight after cutting off his tail is pretty good.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11531: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:48:50 PM

See, that's how I also make up for the fact that even after that they weren't up to their later powerlevel. See, I'm betting they were somewhere around 40 to 50k, because they were still very weary from their time in namek. Explains how Krillin went up to 75k later, presumably after he had time to rest up and recover from being blown right the fuck up. Their power was lowered from strain, but the Senzu helped alleviate some of their tiredness.

PS: Doesn't Senzu mean 'Holy Bean' or 'Sage Bean' or something along those lines? Saying 'Senzu Bean' is kind of redundant, ain't it?

(Semillas del Hermitaño in the Spanish dub solved this nicely, since that's what 'Senzu' translates to in Spanish)

edited 7th Mar '15 8:50:34 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11532: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:52:55 PM

They weren't barely managing Guldo; they were both clearly stronger than him, he just took them off guard with his paralysis technique, which has a name that I've forgotten.

The point stands, though. And [up] there are a lot of redundancies like that in the English language, especially with appropriated foreign words.

edited 7th Mar '15 8:54:07 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11533: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:53:48 PM

It is redundant, yeah. Some dub terms are too ingrained in me.

Since Vegeta talked about their steadily rising power as separate from his own gains, I can't buy into it being for the same reason he was powering up.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11534: Mar 7th 2015 at 8:57:07 PM

I can also explain that just by saying that they weren't quite used to their powers yet and their power rose as they used it, which isn't necessarily countering the theory of them being a lot weaker than they should be due to tiredness.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11535: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:00:45 PM

I'm just Saiyan that Gohan was seemingly getting Zenkais. After Dende healed him he was able to smack Frieza's Third Form around a little.

It didn't last, but.

And, I mean, I seem to remember them needing Vegeta's help with Guldo. Stronger than him or not.

And Recoome destroyed them. Completely.

Krillin does a little better against Goku-Ginyu and Frieza's second form than he did against Recoome.

At least, after Dende heals him, in the case of the latter. What with being impaled and all.

edited 7th Mar '15 9:01:47 PM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11536: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:13:53 PM

Oh, Gohan was definitely getting a lot of Zenkai bullshit powerup out there. He wound up at 200,000, IIRC.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11537: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:20:40 PM

200,000 when facing Freeza's first form. It was noted that he got a Zenkai when he attacked third-form Freeza.

Plus there's his thing of getting stronger when he's angry.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11538: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:23:57 PM

Point is, Gohan wound up getting an absurd amount of power absurdly quickly.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#11539: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:31:13 PM

When I said each form having certain supers, i meant it for only a few evolving, not entire skill list changes. Like how super spirit bomb became dragon fist in budokai.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#11540: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:31:37 PM

That hybrid blood plus the zenkai boost made him extremely broken. he gets power way too quickly.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11541: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:36:08 PM

Gohan is a prime example of heterosis on steroids.

edited 7th Mar '15 9:38:46 PM by LSBK

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#11542: Mar 8th 2015 at 1:47:38 AM

I was wondering, has anyone tried importing models from other games into Xenoverse (PC)? Some interesting set ups could be done if successful like some Brawl hacks, and I have a keen eye for a certain group of animatronics to join the battle...

Edit: Heh, someone made Young Nappa playable:

edited 8th Mar '15 9:04:50 AM by Rinsankajugin

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11543: Mar 8th 2015 at 9:12:17 AM

DAIRY QUEEN!

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#11544: Mar 8th 2015 at 9:45:20 AM

No. Heresy!.

I like Budokai 1. This is the only game that gave a damn about the cutscenes.

edited 8th Mar '15 9:47:33 AM by FOFD

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#11545: Mar 8th 2015 at 9:48:22 AM

You know what should be in the next game?

Villainous Majin Baby Janemba. tongue

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#11546: Mar 8th 2015 at 9:50:39 AM

Why the "Villainous" part?

And why not "Metal Majin Baby Janemba"... a much better name for a band.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#11547: Mar 8th 2015 at 9:55:13 AM

Because, Demigra has to find a way to come back to life. tongue

Oh... you gave me an idea though... a horrible, horrible idea...

Villainous Meta Majin Baby Janemba

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#11548: Mar 8th 2015 at 10:16:43 AM

No, not just plain old Janemba, let's make it Janebuu, a fusion of Janemba and Buu.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#11549: Mar 8th 2015 at 10:31:35 AM

Villainous Meta Mind-Controlled Majin Baby Janembuu

A kid controlled by a demon controlled by an alien controlled by another demon controlled by a giant brain controlled by another demon absorbed by Buu and is a cyborg.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11550: Mar 8th 2015 at 10:46:00 AM

His archnemesis is Jason McNally.

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