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#11126: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:29:47 PM

The problem is that Goten and Trunks are saiyan children. Children, which are already resilient, boosted by being part of a race of Blood Knights. So, I can totally see Goten and Trunks going into a candy store and making jokes about Buu eating people like candy.

Marron is fully human though so she'd probably be a fair bit traumatized...

... But she most likely never even saw Buu or had any idea of what was going on so I doubt it.

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#11127: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:33:03 PM

If Goten and Trunks were traumatized they sure didn't act like it with their "lol lets save super saiyan 3 for the last minute" that they decided when training together.

I too have always found the "Piccolo is black" thing to be really strange. It might just be that there are no major black people in the cast to identify with, while Piccolo is one of the few non-caucasian looking characters (because anime characters end up looking caucasian a lot regardless of being asian or aliens). Might also be that those fans stereotype black as being cool and tough, like Piccolo acts when he's not cackling madly over something.

There was also this big thing about black Saiyans / black Goku during the 90s and with that stuff coming up again with Xenoverse I assume it's about identification.

So from what I can tell, some black fans identify with Piccolo more than other characters.

edited 26th Feb '15 6:40:01 PM by Saiga

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#11128: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:34:27 PM

Yeah. And keep in mind that this was after Goten watched Buu turn his mother into an egg and smash her.

If seeing his own mother murdered before his eyes isn't sufficient to traumatize Goten, I don't think killing the rest of the world would fare much better.

edited 26th Feb '15 6:35:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11129: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:36:46 PM

Buu saga was kinda stupid. Everyone just turned into an asshole.

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#11130: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:37:31 PM

Everyone's always been an asshole.

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#11131: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:38:08 PM

They didn't turn into assholes. Dragon Ball has never been shy about presenting its characters as flawed people. Even Goku, since the guy flat out admits that he's a selfish ass putting Earth in danger just because he wants to fight Vegeta again.

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#11132: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:39:37 PM

It just seems so much worse and obvious in Buu.

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#11133: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:41:58 PM

Worse than Vegeta protecting Cell while he achieves his Perfect Form?

Or Goku giving Cell a Senzu Bean to ensure he's in peak fighting condition when he faces Gohan?

edited 26th Feb '15 6:42:15 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11134: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:43:41 PM

Okay, that second one isn't technically Goku being an asshole. He wanted the fight to be fair. It's not smart, but it's Goku.

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#11135: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:44:21 PM

Vegeta, Bulma, Chi-Chi and Satan are all less assholish in the Boo arc. Hell Ten says it's good to see Gohan, probably the nicest thing he has ever said. Cell arc Ten was like "yeah I won't see you guys again, bye".

The only one who seems like more of an asshole is Goku, thanks to constant retcons.

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#11136: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:46:05 PM

The difference between Cell and Buu is during the Cell Saga, Goku and Vegeta's asshole moments seemed to be a Saiyan trait. It doesn't justify it, but at least it's an explanation. In Buu, it's not just Goku and Vegeta being assholes. Everyone is acting weirdly. Goku, Vegeta, the kids, Piccolo...

edited 26th Feb '15 6:48:57 PM by LOLypop1224

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#11137: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:48:05 PM

No, not really. Piccolo is at his best here and in no way an asshole, the kids had some Mood Whiplash with that egg scene but Gotenks is consistently a buttlord and then that's about it.

Vegeta indirectly frees Boo... better than directly powering up Cell.

edited 26th Feb '15 6:48:57 PM by Saiga

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#11138: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:48:18 PM

The only awful thing Piccolo did was tell Buu to go finish killing the world to buy time for Goten and Trunks to train, and he was operating on sound logic: most of the world's already dead so we're obviously going to do a Bring Back Everyone wish once this is all over, and if Gotenks isn't strong enough to beat Buu, everyone dies anyway.

edited 26th Feb '15 6:48:54 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11139: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:49:15 PM

Actually, the people that get turned into candy are actually fully aware of what's happening to them, as Vegito's magical ability to fight as candy was a) due to the magic of the earrings themselves, and b) only let him keep his power, with it implied in the Daizenshuu that he would still have been self-aware even if he didn't retain his power. So yeah, three-year old Marron was fully aware of being essentially eaten alive.

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#11140: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:50:21 PM

Fortunately, she's three.

Toddlers experience many things that are frightening and terrible at that age. Nobody remembers that shit.

If people could remember everything that was terrifying during those years, no one would ever sleep again.

edited 26th Feb '15 6:51:08 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11141: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:50:58 PM

I don't think any earlier version of Piccolo would feel as bad about that plan as Boo arc Piccolo did. He really didn't want to offer that.

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#11142: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:51:40 PM

But either way, Goku and Vegeta make stupid decisions. In every arc. Sometimes it's justified, sometimes it isn't.

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#11143: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:53:18 PM

Bit of an exaggeration. Goku did nothing stupid in the Namek arc, just off the top of my head.

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#11144: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:53:31 PM

Hey, be fair to Vegeta. He didn't make terrible decisions in either the Red Ribbon Army Saga OR the Piccolo Daimao Saga!

His choices in the Pilaf arc, however, leave much to be desired.

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#11145: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:56:08 PM

Well, Goku didn't finish off Freeza. Sure, he assumed he was dead, and it wasn't like he knew Freeza would be rebuilt as a cyborg. But still.

And besides, Goku didn't contribute enough to the plot on Namek to even make stupid decisions.

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#11146: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:58:48 PM

HE SHOT FRIEZA WITH A BIG OL' LASER BEAM, AND FRIEZA WAS HALF OF A BODY. I think it's safe to say he was allowed to have other priorities.

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#11147: Feb 26th 2015 at 6:59:16 PM

Well, Goku thought he finished of Frieza. Admittedly he was going to let him live but that ended real quick when Frieza stupidly tried to shot him in the back.

edited 26th Feb '15 6:59:37 PM by LSBK

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#11148: Feb 26th 2015 at 7:00:48 PM

Also Namek was currently exploding.

I guess giving Freeza ki was a dumb thing but on the other hand he made sure not to give him enough for it to bite him on the ass.

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#11149: Feb 26th 2015 at 7:01:25 PM

Correction, he shot Frieza with a giant ki beam into the core of the planet, which was about to explode. Not like he knew Frieza could survive being at essentially ground zero of a planetary explosion.

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#11150: Feb 26th 2015 at 7:02:48 PM

Allowing Frieza to take the time he needed to reach 100% when both Frieza and time itself were against him was pretty dumb.

edited 26th Feb '15 7:03:25 PM by TobiasDrake

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