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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#11026: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:14:51 PM

Never!

...

You are now thinking about what Zarbon did to you while you were unconscious. Have fun with that.

edited 23rd Feb '15 2:15:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11027: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:19:15 PM

A guy who doesn't train being more powerful than a guy who does train is silly, though. This isn't a human compared to an alien, or even two people who have vastly different power levels. Hell, we don't even know how much stronger Krillin is than Tien, or how much stronger than Tien Krillin was at the height of his power.

(By the way, if having sex with someone who's very strong also makes you very strong... That would actually explain how Chichi was able to train Goten, now that I think about it...)

edited 23rd Feb '15 2:39:32 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#11028: Feb 23rd 2015 at 4:39:01 PM

Let's not worry about who's stronger. It's a meaningless debate. I mean, it's not like any of them stand a chance against Freeza. We know that's Goku and Vegeta's role.

I'm more surprised they didn't forget about Gohan's whole "potential to be strongest in the universe" (but still doesn't do crap). It's not like he's done anything to back that claim up ever since the series ended. I thought they were just ignoring it in modern DBZ stuff.

edited 23rd Feb '15 4:39:46 PM by LOLypop1224

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#11029: Feb 23rd 2015 at 4:54:47 PM

He might not be the best fighter or have the cleanest win ratio.

But he is the only one with a college education and a career to show for it. Rock that Master's, Gohan.

edited 23rd Feb '15 5:36:00 PM by FOFD

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#11030: Feb 23rd 2015 at 5:21:28 PM

"But Tien, the doctor said if your shoulders get any bigger-"

"That's why we don't see him anymore."

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11031: Feb 23rd 2015 at 5:55:19 PM

If Tien's shoulders get any bigger, he might turn into a table.

Say...

Chichi would totally stomp Mr. Satan, right?

edited 23rd Feb '15 6:10:46 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11032: Feb 23rd 2015 at 6:30:40 PM

There's absolutely nothing silly about it. No-one is saying Ten can never surpass Kuririn while Kuririn doesn't train, just that the time in the series evidently wasn't enough.

" This isn't a human compared to an alien, or even two people who have vastly different power levels. Hell, we don't even know how much stronger Krillin is than Tien, or how much stronger than Tien Krillin was at the height of his power."

...yes, it is exactly that. There's an absolutely massive difference between their powers, and we know enough to know that Ten needs to go from 1,830 to above 75,000 to surpass Kuririn on Namek. So even ignoring the next 5 years of Kuririn's training, it's an insane gap.

It's utterly ridiculous to say anything but Ten surpassing Kuririn before the series end is silly.

This isn't "guy who does train vs guy who doesn't", this is "two guys train all their lives, one then gets a massive power up, trains some more before quitting, and maintains enough of a lead over the other that he can't catch up in a given time period".

Completely different. Regular training just isn't as effective as special power ups, 90% of the time.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11033: Feb 23rd 2015 at 6:39:12 PM

Hard to believe Krillin is stronger than Vegeta when he arrived on Earth. Namek power levels got ridiculous. No wonder they stopped calculating them after that.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#11034: Feb 23rd 2015 at 6:59:12 PM

[up][up][up] Yup. But it just might be close enough of a match that Mr. Satan couldn't easily pass it off as a gag loss :3

[up][up] By the Saiyan saga, we reached a point where even "just training" doesn't just adds tens or twenties, it has the potential to multiply power levels by values of around 10 in months. Were any special techniques confirmed as being used by Kami and Popo on the lookout, where the humans got boosted from 100-200 to ca. 1,000 each? And by the time the training with King Kai was done with, Chiaotzu was likely a helluva lot stronger training partner than Kami or Popo.

edited 23rd Feb '15 7:04:01 PM by DoctorDiabolical

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#11035: Feb 23rd 2015 at 7:01:57 PM

Yeah, I don't think Chi Chi's ever displayed anything resembling superhuman powers except being able to survive a fucking from Cell Saga Goku, so Hercule could probably put up an actual fight.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11036: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:24:18 PM

Buu Saga Chichi survived a fight with Goten. A fight in which Goten went Super Saiyan on her. Remember: Goku, with a million times the experience (and admittedly, a much, much higher powerlevel) bitchslapped her through a wall accidentally. Saiyans do not have perfect control of their strength, much less so in Super Saiyan form. Chichi's gotta be tough as shit.

@Saiga

The characters' powerlevels increase faster the higher they are. Which means that yes, I do expect Tien to have caught up in the ten years of time there was between Freeza's death and Majin Buu's death, particularly given that Tien trained for all ten years whereas Krillin pretty much stopped after Cell, and if not, then not much later.

Hell, it wouldn't really surprise me if Tien was stronger than Krillin during Cell's time on earth.

Just because Krillin is the strongest human doesn't mean he's the strongest Earthling, though... That'd actually be Gohan.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#11037: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:31:41 PM

To be fair, Chichi surviving Goku's back slap is as much Rule of Funny as anything else. Yeah, she's genuinely tough, but it likely didn't kill her because it was more humorous to put her through a few trees instead.

The Goten thing might have been the same, combined with Goten not using that much strength even when transformed.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11038: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:40:51 PM

The scene is a goddamn joke anyway, but the point is, Chichi is supposed to be tough. She's just nowhere near the same ballpark as her family is (hell, her children aren't in the same ballpark her husband is and need outside aid to join it).

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11039: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:55:22 PM

Isn't her surviving a hit from Super Saiyan Goten filler, though? Chi-Chi's toughness is made from Rule of Funny. The whole 'the only things Saiyans are afraid of are their wives' thing. It's pretty hard to work out how strong she actually is.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11040: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:57:04 PM

I remember seeing somewhere her power level in that tournament she was in was 88, which I believe is the same as Hercule/Mr. Satan.

I could be completely off base with that, though.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11041: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:58:41 PM

Friendly reminder that Krillin could blow up the Earth several times over if he were so inclined.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#11043: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:00:56 PM

Vegeta could when his power level was 18,000. Really, seeing as you only need a power level in the hundreds to blow up the moon, all of them probably could at that point.

edited 23rd Feb '15 9:01:48 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11044: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:02:22 PM

Chichi is implied to have been the one to train Goten, which implies she must have taken some hits from him.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11045: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:02:34 PM

[up][up][up]Assuming Vegeta was telling the truth about aiming to blow up the Earth (Which there's no reason to doubt, given he'd be proven wrong almost immediately), all it takes is a power level of at least 18,000 to achieve planet-buster status, probably even less. Krillin at his Namek peak was 75,000, and might have gotten marginally stronger afterward.

Ninja'd.

edited 23rd Feb '15 9:02:56 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#11046: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:06:38 PM

Well, destroying a planet and completely vaporizing it are two different things, right?

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#11047: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:11:41 PM

Also a reminder that practically EVERYONE can blow up the planet. Even the 7 and 8 year old boys. All you need is one Majin Vegeta and literally everyone could die.

Even if you don't use mind control, jeez. No wonder they want to keep this a secret. I'm honestly surprised the Earth wasn't destroyed sooner.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11048: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:12:27 PM

Everyone except Yamcha.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11049: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:13:44 PM

Especially the two young boys. See, the problem with them is, they can barely hold back as it is.

By the way have I said that Krillin at 75,000 at the time of Namek makes no sense? 'cuz it doesn't.

edited 23rd Feb '15 9:14:49 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11050: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:14:26 PM

[up][up]Even him; that's how easy it is. But seriously, the only one I who think maybe couldn't do it by the end is Chiaotzu (and Master Roshi I guess, but he was a joke character long by then).

edited 23rd Feb '15 9:14:43 PM by LSBK


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