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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#11001: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:08:56 AM

IIRC the 3DS is about as powerful as a Gamecube, N 3 DS is less powerful than a Wii(but can cheat) and the Vita is close to the PS 3.

This is why 3DS got a spin off game of Persona 3/4 working on the engine from a series that already worked on the 3DS while the Vita got a remake of Persona 4 that was improved in every way from back when it was on PS 2.

Super Smash Bros. For 3DS can't handle more than a few 3D characters on screen at the same time and has to shut down everything else on the system to play the game.

edited 23rd Feb '15 8:09:16 AM by LordofLore

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11002: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:22:44 AM

One would think that the limitations would mean less considering that there are more varied and better ways of doing things, but programmers get lazy and don't optimize things well...

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#11003: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:23:39 AM

Also, translated character profiles for the new movie:

  • SON GOKU (Masako Nozawa)
    • A Saiyan raised on Earth, who has protected Earth from numerous mighty foes. He likes fighting against strong opponents, and the stronger the opponent, the more excited he gets. After the battle with God of Destruction Beerus, he is now training under Whis in search of even greater strength.

  • VEGETA (Ryō Horikawa)
    • This prideful prince of the Saiyans. He was once a cruel warrior of evil, but through his fights with Goku & co., he has come to have a proper heart. He burns with an unyielding desire to best Goku in battle, and now is continuing his training.

  • SON GOHAN (Masako Nozawa)
    • Goku’s son, an Earthling/Saiyan hybrid. He has a quiet personality, and his dream has been to become a scholar since he was a small child, but when it comes time to fight, he wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyans. This time, he can’t find his dōgi, so he joins the fray in his gym clothes.

  • PICCOLO (Toshio Furukawa)
    • A Namekian warrior. He was once a Great Demon King, the evil half of Earth’s God. He is also Gohan’s master, who raised him as a warrior. Together with Gohan, he perceives Freeza’s ki right away, and engages Freeza & co. in battle.

  • KURIRIN (Mayumi Tanaka)
    • The strongest Earthling warrior, who became a pupil of Kame-Sen’nin’s with Goku, and who has fought together with him in numerous life-or-death battles. Now he patrols the town as a police officer.

  • TENSHINHAN (Hikaru Midorikawa)
    • A martial artist formerly of the Crane School, who had aspired to become the world’s best hitman, but had a change of heart after meeting Goku & co. He had continued on a journey of training apart from Goku and the others, but perceiving Freeza’s massively powerful ki, he rushes to the scene.

  • KAME-SEN’NIN (Masaharu Satō)
    • A legendary martial artist who was once famous as the Muten Rōshi, and also Goku’s master. Now, he lives a quiet life at Kame House. Having stayed out of the battles for a while, this time he makes his long-awaited return and joins the fight.

  • BULMA (Hiromi Tsuru)
    • The very first of Goku’s friends, who he first met in the mountains. She is the scion of Capsule Corporation, and a genius with machines, such as developing the Dragon Radar. She catches wind of Freeza’s revival from a certain character.

  • VIDEL (Yūko Minaguchi)
    • The daughter of world champion fighter Mister Satan. She met Gohan in high school, and married him after the fight with Majin Buu. Now she is the mother of a child.

  • No. 18 (Miki Itō)
    • An Artificial Human remodeled by the genius scientist Doctor Gero with the goal of killing Goku. After the fight with Cell, she married Kuririn, and lives together with her daughter Marron at Kame House. She shaves the head of Kuririn, who is serious about his first fight in a long time.

  • BEERUS (Kōichi Yamadera)
    • The god who governs destruction, keeping the balance of the cosmos. If he should lose his temper, he will destroy the worlds and lives around him. The mightiest being, who not even Goku could beat as a Super Saiyan God. After the fight with Goku, he fell back into a long slumber, but…?

  • WHIS (Masakazu Morita)
    • A man of many mysteries, who works in tandem with Beerus. He is also Beerus’ master, the depths of whose power is unknown. After the fight between Goku and Beerus, he trains Goku and Vegeta, who seek even greater strength.

  • ORACLE FISH (Shōko Nakagawa)
    • A mysterious fish that gives prophecies. It once prophesized the appearance of a mighty foe to Beerus, which came true through the appearance of Goku as a Super Saiyan God. Has a careless personality, and will forget even its own prophecies.

  • PILAF, SHUU, MAI (Shigeru Chiba, Tesshō Genda, Eiko Yamada)
    • Minor villains who plot world domination with the Dragon Balls, but are always stopped by Goku & co. Never learning their lesson, they sought out the Dragon Balls, but they ended up getting used by Freeza’s forces…?

edited 23rd Feb '15 8:50:29 AM by LordofLore

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#11004: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:37:27 AM

Hells yeah for Ghost Nappa in Dragon Ball Xenoverse.

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#11005: Feb 23rd 2015 at 8:50:08 AM

[up][up]I suppose I shouldn't even bother asking what happened to Yamcha...

Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
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#11006: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:01:14 AM

Yamcha got Yamcha'd most likely.

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#11007: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:06:36 AM

  • Oh good, Vegeta is burning with an unyielding desire to defeat Goku, despite having already yielded that desire in one of the best moments of the entire Buu Saga. Nice to see that's back.
  • Gohan "wields a power even greater than pure Saiyans". You know, that's not saying much. At this point, Krillin wields a power greater than pure Saiyans. Goku and Vegeta are not representative of the race as a whole.
  • Piccolo was one a great Demon King, the evil half of God! They fail to mention that he was also once the good half of God too. Piccolo may be dominant, but the Nameless Namekian recombined a long time ago.
  • Krillin is a cop. I support this.
  • Tien still thinks he's relevant. That's cute.
  • Yamcha doesn't, and has apparently decided to sit this movie out. That's a commendable self-awareness.
  • Kame-sennin is returning to the fight? That's funnier than Tien!
  • Videl is "the mother of A child". I hope it's Gohan's, otherwise that could get awkward!
  • Android 18 shaves Krillin's head for him so he can get serious about this fight! Yep, that's what 18's been reduced to. The definitive female combatant, the one badass woman fighter in Dragon Ball. Her epic role in this movie: she's Krillin's head-shaver.
  • Oracle Fish! I wonder if it's the same fish that offered Abridged Goku a wish to spare his life, which backfired when Goku wished for him to be his dinner.
  • The thing I'm more curious about with Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai is whether or not Mai is still dating Trunks. Because that was adorable AND intensely creepy.

edited 23rd Feb '15 9:07:37 AM by TobiasDrake

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#11008: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:10:01 AM

wild mass guess Frieza launches a Death Ball that Goku can't stop, and it's Tien's Neo Tri Beam that saves the Earth from destruction.

Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
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#11009: Feb 23rd 2015 at 9:11:38 AM

Hopefully Freeza randomly stomps Yamcha.

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#11010: Feb 23rd 2015 at 12:45:04 PM

I find it hilarious that Yamcha isn't even listed there.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11011: Feb 23rd 2015 at 12:56:11 PM

Well, Yamcha DID stop fighting after Cell. I think he became self-aware at that point and realise his only purpose was to get The Worf Effect. Except he wasn't even credible enough for that to work anymore. So he basically just loses everything.

Also, Krillin confirmed as strongest human. *sigh* Let the debate begin.

edited 23rd Feb '15 12:57:01 PM by LOLypop1224

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11012: Feb 23rd 2015 at 12:56:16 PM

@Tobias It's obviously referring to Goku/Vegeta, but they're not allowed to say that. Same with his Ultimate form described as "stronger than a Super Saiyan 3" or "Gotenks surpassed Vegeta and the others". They always avoid mentioning Goku.

That said after the last movie Goku would be stronger and in this movie Vegeta likely will be, so I find it weird they're repeating that.

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#11013: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:03:02 PM

[up][up] What's to debate? It's always been Tien fans v. Canon.

edited 23rd Feb '15 1:03:24 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11014: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:04:26 PM

Not just in the Kuririn debate, either.

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#11015: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:09:11 PM

Hehe...do you think canon would stop people from arguing? It's like how people think the fans pressured Toriyama to bring Goku back in the Buu Saga. I used to believe it, as well, but now I know it's completely untrue.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11016: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:09:44 PM

Also... didn't Toriyama retcon Tien into not being human or something? It's not like it's even the slightest bit important, but... whatever.

Anyway, Krillin being the strongest human would be a lot less silly if he hadn't pretty much dropped fighting entirely during the Buu saga. I mean, guy even stopped shaving his head.

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#11017: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:10:43 PM

I thought it was just that one of his distant ancestors was alien?

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#11018: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:41:51 PM

No, he didn't. A guide said he's a distant descendant of aliens, but the same guide also specifies that he's classified as an Earthling (DB's term for human).

The only source that suggests he's anything but an Earthling explicitly says he IS an Earthling.

edited 23rd Feb '15 1:42:11 PM by Saiga

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#11019: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:59:15 PM

I'm going to make a horribly crude yet important point about Krillin's lack of training.

Krillin married Android 18, who is strong enough to effortlessly beat the shit out of Super Saiyans at the level they were post-Namek. I'm pretty sure one night of sex qualifies as a more intense workout than an entire week of Tien sparring with Chiaotzu in the mountains.

edited 23rd Feb '15 2:00:00 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11020: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:05:38 PM

You know, Gohan stopped training. Vegeta and Goku barely surpassed him in 7 years of extreme training. People like Piccolo were still a joke to Gohan's Super Saiyan form.

The whole "Kuririn stopped training, how can he still be stronger?" question has such an obvious answer. The gap was too large. Ten's standing to Kuririn would have certainly improved, but it's still weaker than him.

Given the Guru power up the gap was probably larger than the one between Piccolo and Super Saiyan Gohan at the Cell Games. Yet Piccolo, who says he does nothing but train, didn't close that gap.

Let's not forget that Ten turned down opportunities like the Room of Spirit and Time to stick to his regular training. Just because he trains and Kuririn stopped doesn't mean much for 7 years.

Hell Goku stopped training hard for 5 years after the tournament and Ten was still way weaker than him.

edited 23rd Feb '15 2:07:18 PM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#11021: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:07:54 PM

Just because it's consistent doesn't mean it isn't consistently silly, though.

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#11022: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:10:23 PM

Without taking advantage of super-training options and MacGuffins, it's hard to make up an order of magnitude, and Krillin was close to putting a second digit between himself and Tien.

edited 23rd Feb '15 2:11:08 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11023: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:11:32 PM

It's not silly at all. Silly is simply assuming training in a set period will make you surpass someone who didn't train in that period.

It's only one of many factors, and so drawing a conclusion of that alone is silly.

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#11024: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:12:25 PM

Also, and I cannot stress this enough, Krillin's sexual partner is more powerful than even the Buu Saga's Base Goku and Vegeta combined. That is some goddamn training.

edited 23rd Feb '15 2:12:58 PM by TobiasDrake

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#11025: Feb 23rd 2015 at 2:13:17 PM

Goddamit Tobias, stop making me think about Krillin's sex life!


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