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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#10651: Feb 9th 2015 at 2:47:48 PM

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"And he still only won just barely, despite using an attack that used up some of his life.....oh right. He's not even your student anymore is he? I'm pretty sure he just told you to go fuck yourself."tongue

Winner, Roshi.cool

This is fun.

[up]Murasaki'ed.

edited 9th Feb '15 2:48:59 PM by HandsomeRob

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#10652: Feb 9th 2015 at 3:12:39 PM

[up][up]Gonna need a Senzu for that one.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#10653: Feb 9th 2015 at 4:05:31 PM

Tien saved Gohan's life against Buutenks. Goku got him killed.

I can't help but notice that... Buu fires on Hercule and Dende, and doesn't flinch, whereas Kid Buu tried to attack Mr. Satan and couldn't because of Fat Buu. Although I guess that was due to Vegeta unhooking Fat Buu.

...but then, Buu's Human Extermination Attack seemed to intentionally miss Hercule, while it nailed everyone else except for Tien and Chiaotzu.

...so clearly by absorbing Piccolo's personality as well as the traits of two small children, Buu gained utter indifference towards all living beings. That or being devoid of all other personality traits left him vulnerable to Fat Kaioshin's influence.

edited 9th Feb '15 4:16:48 PM by FOFD

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#10654: Feb 9th 2015 at 4:10:15 PM

Tien got killed by Nappa. Goku broke his back.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#10655: Feb 9th 2015 at 4:13:24 PM

Um, Tri-Beam on Cell. Hmph. There's Tien, carrying the whole team, while Goku was there in bed, nappin'.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10656: Feb 9th 2015 at 4:44:34 PM

Super Buu clearly has a lot more of a personality than any of his other incarnations do. It makes sense. The more people he eats, the more intelligent he becomes, the more intelligent he becomes, the more and more defined his personality becomes, the more and more defined his personality becomes, the less he is influenced by the personalities of the people whom he ate. It might also be that absorbing strong willed people gives Buu himself a strong will, which would allow him to ignore emotional barriers like Fat Buu's attachment to Mr. Satan.

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Karnality Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
#10657: Feb 9th 2015 at 5:06:06 PM

Maybe he just didn't notice Mr. Satan? If I recall they were hiding behind rocks and he fired once Dende popped out, before Mr. Satan did.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10658: Feb 9th 2015 at 5:12:15 PM

So, why is Kid Trunks' Ultimate in Xenoverse the Kamehameha?

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#10659: Feb 9th 2015 at 5:20:56 PM

He used it in Bio Broly? Kid Trunks doesn't really have a signature move in the show. The video games just sort of made one up.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10660: Feb 9th 2015 at 5:23:10 PM

Except the Big Tree Cannon was something he used in his fight with Goten, it just wasn't named. The only Ultimates he has are the Kamehameha and the same generic energy blast volley that practically the entire cast has.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10661: Feb 9th 2015 at 6:10:00 PM

@Karnality

While they see out of their eyes, there's no form of life in the battlefield that they're not aware of, because everything that lives has Ki, and they can sense it.

There is literally no way that Majin Buu didn't know Mr. Satan was there.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10662: Feb 9th 2015 at 6:32:55 PM

Ten's holding back Cell achieved nothing and nearly got him killed. Goku teleported in and saved his life. Though given who he saved, I guess you could say he also achieved nothing.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10663: Feb 9th 2015 at 6:46:09 PM

Tien holding back Cell allowed 16 and Lazuli to escape with their lives. Arguably, if it wasn't for Tien, the Z Fighters would have had to deal with Perfect Cell a lot sooner, before anyone got to use the Time Chamber.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10664: Feb 9th 2015 at 6:55:42 PM

Nope. Ten did nothing, because Cell got to absorb 18 anyway and then no-one was ready for him. It was only because he decided to give everyone 10 days that they survived, absolutely nothing Ten had a hand in.

Vegeta and Trunks were already in the room, nearing the end of their trip. All that would have changed would be Vegeta not getting to fight Cell's second form.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#10665: Feb 9th 2015 at 7:04:38 PM

To be fair, that's less Tien's fault and more Krillin and Vegeta for not doing their jobs (shutting down 18 and killing Cell respectively).

He gave them two chances to end things before it got bad, and they had much easier jobs than Tien did.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10666: Feb 9th 2015 at 7:13:05 PM

[up][up] No...Tien saved everyone because not only would they have to deal with Perfect Cell a lot earlier, they wouldn't have even gotten those ten days, because the only reason he even did that or the Cell Games is because he was curious of how Vegeta and Trunks got so strong in so little time and wondered if Goku was going to get stronger too. The Cell Games as a whole only came about because of his Saiyan genes and him wanting to see how strong Goku got. If Perfect Cell had happened way earlier, then none of that would have happened since no one would have been out of the Time Chamber at that point, so he would have had nothing to prompt him to make the Cell Games, so the planet would have been doomed right then and there.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10667: Feb 9th 2015 at 7:22:54 PM

Tiencha should do a Super Tri-Beam Kamehameha during Kaioken.

edited 9th Feb '15 7:23:30 PM by Rinsankajugin

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#10668: Feb 9th 2015 at 7:47:13 PM

Tien should be the next Super Saiyan God.

All it takes is five Super Saiyans and an unborn Saiyan child. Wish for his genetics to be part-Saiyan, then bam.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10669: Feb 9th 2015 at 8:32:33 PM

Cell might just have set off to destroy stuff randomly until Goku showed up.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10670: Feb 10th 2015 at 12:11:29 AM

Wait, I think I understand why SSJ4 Gogeta is so powerful and weird looking for a SSJ4. The red hair, the reddish-brown fur, the flaming/sparkling aura... it all makes sense...

Gogeta isn't a normal SSJ4, he's a GOD 4.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10671: Feb 10th 2015 at 2:07:16 AM

@Gojira No. Goku can teleport in and explain any of that at literally any time. Cell still wants tilo fight Goku so he won't blow up the planet with no prompt.

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#10672: Feb 10th 2015 at 7:37:52 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the huge advances Vegeta made in his power between getting curbstomped by 18 and fighting Semi-Perfect Cell the reason why Cell was willing to give them the time needed to train in the first place? Would Goku have been as convincing if Cell hadn't seen Vegeta's battle power suddenly skyrocket overnight?

edited 10th Feb '15 7:38:00 AM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10673: Feb 10th 2015 at 7:42:30 AM

Cell would not go for instantaneous destruction. He might just pop over to the Look Out and flat out ask them what they're doing, and when they told him, he might just wind up giving them a chance to impress him, and thus giving them the ten days anyway.

Remember, Cell didn't lose his shit until after Gohan wrecked it. Until then, Cell was actually sort of a Spirited Competitor, clearly loads more interested in an actually challenging fun fight than in destruction.

edited 10th Feb '15 7:43:21 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#10674: Feb 10th 2015 at 7:52:30 AM

That's only after seeing Trunks and Vegeta's incredible power gains, though. Without that, it's hard to predict how Cell would behave, because Cell is a character sorely lacking in Character Motivation. Would he blow up the Earth? Would he vacation in Aruba? Go see the universe? Go blow up the universe? Reignite Frieza's empire?

Cell's entire character motivation was to achieve his Perfect Form. Once he had it, there are no goals or objectives left for him. The moment he absorbed 18, he was done. In our timeline, Cell filled the void where his Character Motivation should be by going, "Wow, Vegeta and Trunks powered up a LOT! Let's see how strong you guys can get! That's a thing I can do!"

But without that revelation, what would Cell do with his complete lack of purpose in life?

EDIT: As an aside, I like to headcanon that this was why Goku gave Cell the Senzu Bean. Rather than just being really stupid, I like to think Goku was hedging his bets; by making a friendly gesture and reaching out to Cell, he was creating a possibility that if Gohan failed, Cell might go, "Wow, that was a lot of fun. Thanks guys. Tell you what, let's do this again next month!" and become one of the protagonists, like so many of his villains have.

edited 10th Feb '15 7:57:52 AM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10675: Feb 10th 2015 at 8:21:34 AM

You know, that only makes me kind of want to write a fic in which Goku decides to beat Cell through words rather than fists, by pointing out that fighting is really, really frikkin' fun, and Cell could do a lot more of that if he left Earth intact than if he destroyed it, and that they'd be a lot more friendly towards him if he stopped, you know, killing people.

Throw in reviving everyone else and a "No harm, no foul", and then timeskip to the Buu Saga where the World Martial Arts tournament is hosted by the reigning champion, Cell, and Babidi comes'a'knockin'.

Besides, it's not like Dragon Ball is above sweeping a villain's prior actions under the rug if it means turning them into good guys. And Cell could always get away with "I was literally programmed to be evil, and didn't have much of a personality beyond it. Now I do!"

Sure, it's effin' bullcrap, but then again, Dragon Ball always did let people get away with that kind of bullcrap provided they didn't relapse into evilness.

edited 10th Feb '15 8:23:02 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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