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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10251: Jan 22nd 2015 at 10:45:30 AM

What I said was intentionally exaggerated to make a point.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10252: Jan 22nd 2015 at 10:48:54 AM

Ah, I see.

Still though, with the base roster, the dark characters and upcoming DLC, I'm still not sure how it adds up over 100. I'm sure there's still characters we haven't seen yet that they're holding off showing for some odd reason.

edited 22nd Jan '15 10:49:12 AM by Rinsankajugin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10253: Jan 22nd 2015 at 1:27:19 PM

I think they might be counting costumes. They have separate moves and transformations this time around, and regular Goku had 14 costumes.

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#10254: Jan 22nd 2015 at 1:43:23 PM

So, how exactly do transformations work this time around?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10255: Jan 22nd 2015 at 1:45:16 PM

Separate characters except for Super Saiyan 1 - 3 which are in-game but temporary.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10256: Jan 22nd 2015 at 2:34:52 PM

Which is bullshit but whatever, it's already done.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10257: Jan 22nd 2015 at 6:58:14 PM

So the DBZ facebook page, when pimping the related guidebook, said there were 47 playable characters.

So. A bit less than 159. However I've already counted 49, so unless two of the following aren't playable:

  • Demigra
  • Towa
  • Miira
  • Goten
  • Kid Trunks

47 can't be right. Goten and Trunks were seen in a fight, but someone has suggested that is a cutscene. It makes no sense to me that the newcomers wouldn't be playable.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10258: Jan 22nd 2015 at 7:05:19 PM

It's possible Demigra might be a boss-only character.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10259: Jan 22nd 2015 at 10:18:05 PM

Gotenks, Lazuli and Vegeta gameplay:

Edit: An upcoming strategy guide listed stuff for 47 characters. Disregarding DLC, the base game seems to have about 51 known characters, previous interviews said we'd have around 70 characters, and Bamco AU says there's a roster of 159.

47, 51, 70+, 159...

Anyone want to try to figure out how each of these numbers fit together?

edited 22nd Jan '15 10:35:28 PM by Rinsankajugin

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10260: Jan 23rd 2015 at 7:21:27 AM

I just remembered this pic from the trophy list!

If Great Saiyaman II is playable, then so should Great Saiyaman. This also means there's still characters don't know about! This leads me to believe 47 is probably the starting roster.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10261: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:52:16 AM

The Great Saiyaman is almost certainly an alternate costume. There's no reason why he'd be his own character.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10262: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:55:03 AM

Hmm, that's odd, but I can see why they made that choice.

That said, the roster sans DLC is still over 50, so I'm not sure what 47 means. It can't be the default roster because that's just way too much from the get-go.

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#10263: Jan 23rd 2015 at 9:15:13 AM

There's plenty of reason for Great Saiyaman to be his own character. Previous games in the Budokai/Tenkaichi series distinguished him as separate so that he could have his own JUSTICE moves rather than firing off Super Kamehamehas and shit.

Gohan's fighting style as Great Saiyaman is entirely different. He merits a separate character slot more than, say, Ultimate Gohan does.

edited 23rd Jan '15 9:16:26 AM by TobiasDrake

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10264: Jan 23rd 2015 at 9:23:26 AM

The Saiyaman Duo are very hammy. tongue

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10265: Jan 23rd 2015 at 11:29:32 AM

If the alternate costumes have different moves and supers, then the need to have a separate Saiyaman character becomes moot.

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#10266: Jan 23rd 2015 at 11:46:57 AM

Fair enough. I suppose if costumes have different moves and powers, then the very concept of distinguishing between Character slot and Costume slot is, itself, pretty moot.

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#10267: Jan 23rd 2015 at 2:32:48 PM

We only have 45 confirmed playable characters sans DLC, so 47 is still possible for a final roster. It'd just mean a few characters we've seen in game aren't playable.

@Tobias Or you could go the Zenkai Battle Royale route and give Ultimate Gohan the Saiyaman flair! Damn I want a port of that game.

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#10268: Jan 23rd 2015 at 2:51:14 PM

Random thought: what would happen if two people under the effects of the Fusion Dance - let's say Gotenks and Gogeta for an example - used the Potara?

Would the ensuing fusion permanently combine all four, or would they divide into two characters split the opposite way - Gokunks and Vegeten, for instance - after the time ran out?

edited 23rd Jan '15 2:52:26 PM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#10269: Jan 23rd 2015 at 3:28:48 PM

Who knows?

I doubt Toriyama gave much thought to it.

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DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
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#10270: Jan 23rd 2015 at 4:03:56 PM

Vegeten sounds like a ship. Gokunks just sounds funny xD

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10271: Jan 23rd 2015 at 4:29:55 PM

UPDATE:

From this screenshot, we can confirm:

  • Goten is playable.
  • Cell Games Gohan doesn't have his base form.

Given how the transformation system is rather sucky this time around, and how Gohan only ever "used" his base form in the Cell arc's closure, I'm happy he'll have Super Saiyan as a base form. It'd be silly for Gohan's constant SS to be... not constant.

So with Goten in the game, that's 46 confirmed characters. Very safe to assume Trunks is playable, so 47.

If that description is right, none of the new characters are playable. That will be disappointing.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10272: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:06:28 PM

... So, shouldn't Goku have at least a perma SS costume for the Cell Saga?

And yeah, not having Base Cell Saga Gohan makes sense, since being in perma SS was kind of the point of that training.

But if they're acknowledging the fact that they did away with the power drain, why are the SS forms temporary?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10273: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:42:41 PM

Goku should but I can understand why they wouldn't - either that costume would be the exact same stats as base Goku, or it'd have different stats and be potentially unfair.

Plus Goku is meant to represent him across all arcs, unlike Gohan who represents a specific portion where he was always a Super Saiyan.

Incidentally, I'm going to make my custom "base" Saiyan look like a Super Saiyan and then just equip Super Saiyan 2. Hell yeah...

edited 23rd Jan '15 8:42:52 PM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10274: Jan 23rd 2015 at 9:54:32 PM

It'd make a certain amount of sense. After all, given that you know it can be done and the custom character you create is supposed to represent you...

Well, the Perma SS training is something I'd do, at least. Then again, I'd also try to train SS 2 the same way.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10275: Jan 23rd 2015 at 10:08:33 PM

Although, being a perma-SS will make fighting Raditz and co. weird.

I really wish there was a re-customisation option, so I could do that later.


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