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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#10076: Jan 5th 2015 at 2:20:24 PM

I don't know why you'd get the idea that magic trumps any powerlevel regardless of how high it is.

Buu's own magic didn't do jack shit to prevent Vegetto from utterly whooping his ass, after all. And yes, Buu is capable of magic. It's how he transforms stuff into other stuff.

Pre Order boni shouldn't be a factor in the first place.

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#10077: Jan 5th 2015 at 2:21:35 PM

In fairness, Buu's magic was successful at reducing Vegetto to candy, despite the power discrepancy between the two.

He just happened to be the most powerful candy in the universe.

edited 5th Jan '15 2:22:29 PM by TobiasDrake

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10078: Jan 5th 2015 at 2:24:13 PM

And that was really only because Vegito had the special property of being able to keep his power no matter what form he was in.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
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#10079: Jan 5th 2015 at 2:27:57 PM

And while being absorbed by Super Buu was part of a somewhat stupid plan to rescue Piccolo and their kids, Vegetto had no reason to deliberately let the Chocolate Beam to work on him, so one can't really go, "Well, it only worked because he allowed himself to be turned to chocolate."

Shenron's magic explicitly requires him to be stronger than his target or else the target must allow the magic to work on him, demonstrating that magic in the series can be resisted simply by being stronger than it. Goku actually demonstrates this when he refuses Shenron's attempt to bring him to Earth shortly after Namek's destruction. Majin Vegeta, likewise, had to allow Babidi to place the mark on him; it's implied that Vegeta could have resisted it if he so desired, and he actually does resist specific effects of the magic that he doesn't want, namely the mind control.

Chocolate Beam, however, seems to be able to ignore that restriction.

edited 5th Jan '15 2:35:14 PM by TobiasDrake

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#10080: Jan 5th 2015 at 4:21:29 PM

That isn't what I said though. I said that Vegito had the special property of keeping his power no matter what form he took, which is why he was able to still fight as a piece of candy.

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#10081: Jan 5th 2015 at 4:33:47 PM

No, it wasn't what you said. It was an entirely separate possible argument that I only brought up because of its connection to what Vegetto does shortly thereafter.

edited 5th Jan '15 4:34:17 PM by TobiasDrake

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10082: Jan 5th 2015 at 4:59:19 PM

You know what'd be funny?

If a much older Jaco appears in the upcoming movie.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#10083: Jan 5th 2015 at 5:10:45 PM

And got immediately blown up, or if everyone hated him, because he murdered babies.

My various fanfics.
DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
So pure.
#10084: Jan 5th 2015 at 5:57:59 PM

That would be funny.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#10085: Jan 5th 2015 at 6:11:54 PM

He just happened to be the most powerful candy in the universe.

Does that pretty much sum up the Buu Saga, or is that just me?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10086: Jan 5th 2015 at 6:20:32 PM

Boo's a magical creation regardless of what Toriyama says recently. And no, nothing about existing before magic, even his original "pure" form had magical abilities.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10087: Jan 5th 2015 at 6:26:19 PM

Except he was formed when the universe was created, so "magic" wouldn't have existed as a concept yet.

And really, it's Word of God that Buu was a primordial being, thinking anything else just becomes pure headcanon at that point.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10088: Jan 5th 2015 at 6:31:38 PM

That is a baseless assumption. Magic could have existed for that long as well.

And it must have, because he's a magic man with magical magic abilities.

No, there's also the manga. I don't need to accept whatever crap Toriyama spews lately. No where in the manga is anything said about him existing before Babidi created him. Toriyama's recent comments have been just plain wrong in some cases, so there's no need to treat them like gospel.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#10089: Jan 5th 2015 at 7:35:50 PM

Given that magic tends to, usually, be one of the fundamental forces of the universe, it tends to have existed exactly as long as it has.

Maybe Buu invented it by accident, tho...

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10090: Jan 5th 2015 at 8:56:27 PM

Would you get a Dragon Ball game with a roster like this?

Fusions, Absorptions and Super Android Combinations are transformable as well as selectable from the select screen.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10091: Jan 5th 2015 at 9:45:38 PM

Someone's already modded God Frieza into Budokai Tenkaichi 3.

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DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
So pure.
#10092: Jan 5th 2015 at 10:07:44 PM

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Nah man I wouldn't buy that, that's a terrible roster, not nearly enough characters! No, really though, the only big oversight is Yajirobe, with the only other named fighters I notice missing being Giran, Cymbal, Staff Officer Black, Ledgic and Cardinal Mutchy Mutchy. I doubt most would have a problem with that roster, other than wet-blankets whose main problem with it would be that it's "unrealistic" tongue.

I'd work with the races though, remove Kaio Ken from the Androids and Changelings, and replace them with perks in the former case, and interim two transformations in the latter. Also, I'd give a choice between Super Saiyan forms or Oozaru for Saiyans, or infinite-power or energy-absorbing for Androids.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10093: Jan 5th 2015 at 10:30:46 PM

[up][up] Already!?

[up] I knew I forgot people! tongue

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10094: Jan 5th 2015 at 11:53:54 PM

Also this.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10095: Jan 6th 2015 at 12:07:11 AM

Would you get a Dragon Ball game with a roster like this?

Not if everything else sucked.tongue

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10096: Jan 6th 2015 at 12:12:57 AM

Found this interesting.

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DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
So pure.
#10097: Jan 6th 2015 at 12:19:39 AM

[up][up][up][up] Oh, one more thing: you misspelled Guldo as Guido [lol]

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#10098: Jan 6th 2015 at 11:24:48 AM

I want a DBZ rpg.

One that reminds me of the old DBZ games, like Gekishin Freeza. Actually, I want a proper goddamned translation for Gekishin Freeza.

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#10099: Jan 6th 2015 at 11:41:27 AM

Anyone remembers Buu's Fury? I had tons of fun with that game.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#10100: Jan 6th 2015 at 11:48:43 AM

It was fun. It's funny to think that the series that led to Buu's fury started with Legacy of Goku, and that one was awful.

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