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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10026: Jan 3rd 2015 at 12:31:16 PM

Wait, Spirit Bomb is just a normal Super now?

edited 3rd Jan '15 12:31:29 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10027: Jan 3rd 2015 at 12:35:08 PM

I'm guessing the ultimate we saw was actually the Super Spirit Bomb or something like that.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10028: Jan 3rd 2015 at 1:36:51 PM

... How is it that the Super Kamehameha is an ultimate, but the comparatively much stronger Kamehameha x10 is just a super?

...

That doesn't make any sense.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10029: Jan 3rd 2015 at 1:46:56 PM

I'm guessing the red 10x Kamehameha is the super while the shiny blue one used against Baby is the Ultimate. There technically are two different 10x Kamehamehas.

edited 3rd Jan '15 1:47:49 PM by Rinsankajugin

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10031: Jan 3rd 2015 at 2:49:58 PM

[up][up]It's odd that the only game I've seen that had that particular Kamehameha was Earth's Special Forces.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10032: Jan 3rd 2015 at 2:54:04 PM

Final Bout and Heroes both have the blue 10x Kamehameha.

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#10033: Jan 3rd 2015 at 3:03:05 PM

Super Kamehameha I think is just a huge Kamehameha in this game. It's probably just different characters, SS4 Goku might have a completely different move for his Ultimate.

What's even more baffling is how Light Grenade is a Super while Makankosappo and Hellzone Grenade are Ultimates.

edited 3rd Jan '15 3:03:57 PM by Saiga

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10034: Jan 3rd 2015 at 3:10:02 PM

I'm kinda surprised the Kamekameha is it's own move with it's own proprieties, but more variety I always say.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10035: Jan 3rd 2015 at 3:12:17 PM

While it's Blue, in Final Bout, it's almost certainly not the one I'm talking about. For starters, it's only one Kamehameha while the one I'm talking about is started by Goku charging one in each hand and then combining them into one.

The 'variety' of the Kamekameha is achieved by just not charging your normal Kamehameha, though...

Also, Turtle Turtle..? Sounds silly.

edited 3rd Jan '15 3:13:38 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#10036: Jan 3rd 2015 at 3:15:21 PM

It was Goten's move, I believe.

And yeah, that 10x Kamehameha was in Dragon Ball Heroes, dual ball charging and all.

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#10037: Jan 3rd 2015 at 3:26:55 PM

Like Turtle Wave is any less silly.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10038: Jan 3rd 2015 at 3:46:24 PM

[up]x5 How is that baffling? Have you forgotten that the Raging Blast games and Ultimate Tenkaichi were the only ones that made the Light Grenade Piccolo's Ultimate? Hell, this is how it was in every Budokai game and every Budokai Tenkaichi game.

edited 3rd Jan '15 3:48:51 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10039: Jan 3rd 2015 at 6:07:12 PM

It's baffling because both attacks are weaker than the Light Grenade. It doesn't matter what previous games did, it's just consistently wrong.

At least in previous Budokai games Ultimates were cutscene, so it made scene for Hellzone Grenade to be an Ultimate over it as it was more cinematic. Now that DIMPS are using real time Ultimates they should've swapped their positions.

edited 3rd Jan '15 6:09:06 PM by Saiga

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#10040: Jan 3rd 2015 at 6:08:05 PM

Nobody but the biggest nerds actually care.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10041: Jan 3rd 2015 at 6:09:29 PM

Says a lot about Saiga if he's the only one who cares.

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#10042: Jan 3rd 2015 at 6:14:55 PM

If you want a reason it's because Makankosappo is Piccolo's signature attack. Nobody remembers Light Grenade.

edited 3rd Jan '15 6:29:30 PM by Shlugo_the_great

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#10043: Jan 3rd 2015 at 6:25:48 PM

That and the Makūhōidan is flashier than the Gekiretsu Kōdan.

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#10044: Jan 3rd 2015 at 7:19:04 PM

The Light Grenade is Piccolo's 'Strong' attack in Final Bout, at least.

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#10045: Jan 4th 2015 at 8:33:32 AM

Like Final Flash, Light Grenade appeared once and looked cool yet accomplished dick all. The same can technically be said for Hellzone Grenade but, like Saiga pointed out, it's more cinematic.

Makankosappo may be weaker than both of those, but it accomplished more when it was relevant; killing Raditz and Goku simultaneously was, at the time, a huge deal. So there is some sense in making it an Ultimate...sort of?

I don't know, I'm just grasping at straws here.

edited 4th Jan '15 8:33:54 AM by TobiasDrake

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#10046: Jan 4th 2015 at 8:37:17 AM

Final Flash only appeared once?

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#10047: Jan 4th 2015 at 8:44:12 AM

I only have the manga to go by, and I stopped midway through the Buu/Boo/Boobuu saga, because I got distracted, but, until the Cell saga at least, yep, he only did use Final Furash a grand total of once.

You know, hats tipped to the anime directors/screen writers. The real Final Flash came and went like a fart, but they apparently managed to drag it out into an entire episode.

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#10048: Jan 4th 2015 at 8:49:00 AM

[up][up]Anime filler also had him use it against a Cell Jr. The next time it showed up was in GT as "Final Shine".

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#10049: Jan 4th 2015 at 8:53:05 AM

Hmm, I remember him using it more often both before and after. I guess it must have been a generic ki beam that looks and behaves pretty much the same but is somehow different.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#10050: Jan 4th 2015 at 10:15:09 AM

IIRC, he used it in the anime against a Cell Jr. and also later on against Goku. Both instances were insanely weak compared to the original, the former not being able to dispatch a Cell Jr. even though it'd obliterated part of Cell's body earlier and the latter clashing with a Kamehameha (that was yellow for some reason, IIRC).

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