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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9901: Dec 27th 2014 at 7:41:01 PM

Goku won't give up if the situation requires that he don't.

Exactly what happened against Vegeta. Gave up when he really shouldn't have.

edited 27th Dec '14 7:42:03 PM by Saiga

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#9902: Dec 27th 2014 at 7:43:14 PM

Honestly, the thing that seemed most out of character to me was not taking Beerus and Whiss up on their offer to train him.

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#9903: Dec 27th 2014 at 7:58:42 PM

[up][up]... Depends on which fight with Vegeta you're talking about here.

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#9904: Dec 27th 2014 at 8:02:12 PM

The only fight I can think of is the fight with Majin Vegeta. And that time, he didn't quit, he called for a truce.

"Hey, hang on, I suddenly realized this is fucking stupid."

Supreme Kai: (off in the distance) THAN YOU.

"Let's time out for like five minutes to go blow up this pink douchebag."

"Fair enough."

Vegeta then suckerpunched Goku in the back of the head like a coward.

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#9905: Dec 27th 2014 at 8:04:34 PM

The offer involved becoming a God of Destruction as well, though. Vegeta and Goku are probably being trained by Whis in the next movie given the matching symbols on their new outfits.

[up][up] The first fight. "I give up, Vegeta. You've beaten me. You're the strongest person I've ever fought".

edited 27th Dec '14 8:05:12 PM by Saiga

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#9906: Dec 27th 2014 at 8:25:59 PM

Given that Goku's surrender came immediately after a miracle second wave of Super Saiyan God allowed him to prevent a giant ball of destruction from annihilating the entire planet, no, I don't agree that Goku knew Beerus wasn't going to destroy the world. Beerus had attempted to do so not a minute prior.

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#9907: Dec 27th 2014 at 8:31:35 PM

[up][up]And yet he continued fighting, or doing his best to contribute to the fight, all the way until Vegeta was driven off. Sure, he then stopped Krilin from killing him, but he wouldn't be Goku if he didn't do that.

[up]Just because Beerus has no real intention to destroy Earth doesn't mean it can't happen as a result of their fight. I doubt he cares either way. Immediately after, Beerus could have continued and destroyed Earth. But he didn't.

Who knows? Maybe either Whis or Beerus would've stopped the attack if Goku hadn't.

edited 27th Dec '14 8:33:40 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9908: Dec 27th 2014 at 8:45:16 PM

[up] That was because Kuririn and Gohan showed up. He stopped resisting completely until then.

As for your second point... that's not an argument at all. Beerus was talking about destroying the Earth the entire time, and Goku didn't catch on until the end where Beerus "failed" to destroy the Earth.

Goku is not infallible. He has limits, and he'll give up if he's pushed past them. We've seen this happen twice.

edited 27th Dec '14 8:46:01 PM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9909: Dec 27th 2014 at 9:12:03 PM

Yeah, because he could've offered so much resistance. In both cases, Goku was pressed past the point where he couldn't have done anything. Surrender or not, Goku was defeated in both occassions. Admitting defeat is not surrendering or giving up.

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#9910: Dec 29th 2014 at 12:09:56 PM

I found this funny.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9911: Dec 29th 2014 at 12:14:55 PM

Would've been funnier if it was the Farmer With a Shotgun doing it, though.

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#9912: Dec 29th 2014 at 12:15:49 PM

They killed Mary Sue! You bastards!

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#9913: Dec 29th 2014 at 12:49:53 PM

I find it funny when people argue about the name of Frieza's race/clan/family, whether it be Acrosian, Icejin, Frost Demon, Freezisians and so on and so forth.

That's why I've always called 'em Changelings, it describes the species' main attribute and isn't another dumb fridge pun. tongue

edited 29th Dec '14 12:50:43 PM by Rinsankajugin

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9914: Dec 29th 2014 at 12:51:12 PM

I've always called them...

... Freeza's race.

'Cause I really, really don't care if it even has a name.

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#9915: Dec 29th 2014 at 12:55:49 PM

As of yet, they don't. The recent species/ability breakdown for Xenoverse even describes them as Frieza. I think Heroes calls them Frieza's Race too. It's actually rather funny to see how consistently the franchise refuses to give them a proper name.

  • Human
  • Saiyan
  • Namekian
  • Majin
  • Frieza

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#9916: Dec 29th 2014 at 12:58:44 PM

Presumably, they will until Toriyama comes up with a sufficiently funny pun to give them a name with.

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#9917: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:01:36 PM

I want to see more of the races in the future!

  • Human
  • Saiyan
  • Namekian
  • Majin
  • Frieza Race
  • Zarbon Race
  • Ginyu Race
  • Recoome Race
  • That One Guy Who Blew Up The Ship At The Start Of Namek Saga Race
  • Kai, Because Screw It, It's Already A Mary Sue Generator Anyway

edited 29th Dec '14 1:02:41 PM by TobiasDrake

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#9918: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:07:21 PM

You know, I actually think it's kinda odd we can't choose the Supreme Kai as a race. They'd be far from the most OP race in the list, after all...

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#9919: Dec 29th 2014 at 2:29:47 PM

Yeah, the Kaioshin have some broken abilities. If they were in Xenoverse, they would be Jack of All Stats Up To Eleven.

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#9920: Dec 29th 2014 at 2:36:02 PM

the hardest metal of the universe trick was pretty cool.

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#9921: Dec 29th 2014 at 2:42:46 PM

In lieu of playable Kaioshin, I want the option to become God - potentially prompting a Mirror Match.

edited 29th Dec '14 2:43:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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#9923: Dec 29th 2014 at 3:54:32 PM

I wouldn't add that many races, personally I'd simply add a more generic "alien race" and have the customisation options turned Up To Eleven. Of course Zarbon's transformation would be hard to work into that - but if you could customise transformed states, that'd solve that problem.

Hell, make it sufficiently in depth, and I think you'd be able to do away with races altogether and just make it possible for players to create the exact likeness of any race through the one system - or any sort of ungodly mashup inbetween.


On Freeza's race name: I really doubt we're ever getting anything from Toriyama. The reason we get "Freeza's Clan" is because when asked to provide a race name, Toriyama has consistently said that they're more like a clan than a race. Which is just like saying "fuck off, I'm not naming them".

Oh and for making a God, Tobias - that'd be pretty easy. Just make any combination and call it God, 'cause there's no physical distinction for low level Gods. Well, God has a Kanji on his outfit, but I'm pretty sure you'll be able to swap symbols in the game. Ultimate Tenkaichi let you put a God symbol on any outfit.

I'm totally making a human/Saiyan in Beerus' outfit though. I think that outfit would look sweet on that body type.

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#9924: Dec 29th 2014 at 3:58:59 PM

Are costumes race-restricted?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9925: Dec 29th 2014 at 4:01:48 PM

I think there are some, like the default starting outfits, but there are many that aren't.

This channel has the upper body options for Earthling males, full costumes for Freeza race, full costumes for male and female majins, and head and hair options. I have only watched the Earthling male and part of the Freeza race video so I don't know more than that.

Oh yeah, you can give humans blue or red skin colour apparently. So it'd be easy to make a mock up Kaioshin, just learn some psychic techs.

Anyone else getting this on Steam? I don't want to be lonely o3o

edited 29th Dec '14 4:05:42 PM by Saiga


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