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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9826: Dec 25th 2014 at 7:24:39 PM

[up][up] There's simply nothing to support the idea that Toriyama forgot them. Super Saiyan 3 even had a tail in Toriyama's original concepts, before he decided not to include it.

Gohan and Vegeta's tails both stopped growing back unaddressed. Goku's was only addressed in the Saiyan arc, where God said he'd remove it permanently during a flashback.

The tails are still mentioned in every arc but the Boo arc, where Toriyama planned to introduce them and then decided not to for whatever reason.

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#9827: Dec 25th 2014 at 7:31:04 PM

I just assumed Bulma had Trunks's tail removed shortly after he popped out. His mother is intimately familiar with the consequences of leaving the child's tail on him.

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#9828: Dec 25th 2014 at 7:57:13 PM

[up][up]There isn't. But hey, it won't stop me from thinking it is the case.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9829: Dec 25th 2014 at 8:34:58 PM

Well that's just kind of dumb then.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#9830: Dec 25th 2014 at 8:41:48 PM

do the databooks say anything about the various cases of magic in the series?cause it seems much more useful than Ki usage,in stuff other than combat.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9831: Dec 25th 2014 at 8:47:06 PM

They mostly repeat what is said in the actual series, but yes. You could just ctrl + f search this for "Magic".

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9832: Dec 25th 2014 at 9:34:56 PM

[up][up][up]Perhaps. But there's nothing to say that he didn't

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9833: Dec 25th 2014 at 9:42:05 PM

Yes, there is. As mentioned, the fact that Toriyama kept accounting for them despite not actually using them in the story.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#9834: Dec 25th 2014 at 10:12:18 PM

Welp, I'm sure there's gonna be many Pilaf-esque and Red Ribbon Changelings if that new datamine video is anything to go by.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9835: Dec 26th 2014 at 7:13:04 AM

I'm a little baffled after watching the recent TFS.

So, Piccolo plus Nail plus Kami was able to curbstomp Cell. But Nameless Nail is just below 17 in power, while Cell is able to take both him and 17 down and absorb 17?

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#9836: Dec 26th 2014 at 7:16:18 AM

Cell had spent all the time everyone else was dicking around to eat more people, which made him more powerful.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9837: Dec 26th 2014 at 7:18:23 AM

I suppose I shouldn't ask how many people he had to eat to be able to leap that gap.

edited 26th Dec '14 7:30:49 AM by FOFD

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#9838: Dec 26th 2014 at 7:27:39 AM

At least another city or three.

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#9839: Dec 26th 2014 at 7:39:09 AM

I think they mention in the manga(might be a news report) that a bunch of towns and cities are going quiet while the training happens.

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#9840: Dec 26th 2014 at 9:10:48 AM

Also bear in mind that Cell showed up after Piccolo had tired himself fighting 17.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9841: Dec 26th 2014 at 9:15:08 AM

Even TFS mentions that Cell is still going around eating people while they're trying to hunt him down.

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Which I can easily explain away by someone, maybe an editor or an assistant or a friend or whatever, coming up to him and going "Dood. Tails." and him going "Oh, yeah, tails..."

Of course, it relies on me making up excuses, but hey.

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#9842: Dec 26th 2014 at 11:51:29 AM

So a conversation in the Fanfic thread, combined with the times it's been brought up in this thread (and even the Abridged thread) has me wondering:

What was the point of sending Yamcha, Tien / Tenshinhan, and Chiaotzu to King Kai / Kaiou Sama's planet when they were never going to do anything at all?

Obviously, Piccolo needed a way to get to Namek, which meant he needed to be able to communicate with them through King Kai, but if the other three were not actually going to do anything, what was the point of sending them there at all?

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#9843: Dec 26th 2014 at 12:05:21 PM

To keep them all in one place so the readers would keep them in mind and see their reactions. Better than them just not existing in the manga until they're revived.

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#9844: Dec 26th 2014 at 12:09:58 PM

Toriyama has openly admitted to Writing by the Seat of Your Pants. The point of sending them to Kaio-sama's planet was to send them there. It created an opening that he could have built on in later events, and gave them something to do. Ultimately, he wound up going a different direction.

edited 26th Dec '14 12:11:44 PM by TobiasDrake

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9845: Dec 26th 2014 at 4:45:44 PM

And it's simply the most logical thing that they would do when they died. They train. They're dead. Kaio's place is the best place to train when you're dead.

It's more like Toriyama would need a reason not to do it, and just not planning to do anything with them isn't reason enough because it's still something the characters would logically want to do even if they're not plot important.

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#9846: Dec 26th 2014 at 5:36:52 PM

Even if they knew they wouldn't manage to amount to anything, which they might... well, what else are they going to do to pass the time 'till they revive?

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#9847: Dec 26th 2014 at 5:39:13 PM

I guess it makes sense that they will do it. I'll admit that.

Right, I won't lie. This comes back to the argument about my frustration over how the humans became irrelevant by Frieza.

But we've already identified why this happened (Frieza being too fucking strong, forcing Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo to take huge jumps to come close), so there's really nothing more to say.

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Makes sense doesn't it?

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#9848: Dec 26th 2014 at 5:39:30 PM

[up][up] Take up a hobby?

edited 26th Dec '14 5:39:47 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9849: Dec 26th 2014 at 5:40:20 PM

They already had a hobby. Training. Which is also the only hobby they could continue to pursue in the afterlife.

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#9850: Dec 26th 2014 at 5:40:22 PM

Android 8 and Major Metallitron existed during the Red Ribbon arc.

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