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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9776: Dec 22nd 2014 at 9:14:55 PM

Well, ignoring the retcons that say they have no mechanical parts.

.......

What?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9777: Dec 22nd 2014 at 10:17:54 PM

Toriyama retconning everything in the Full Colour Comics release.

@Gojira Yeah and you won't find any robots that aren't fully mechanical in real life because we can't do that. However, you're dead wrong about every robot in fiction being purely metal. The term is used far more loosely than that.

edited 22nd Dec '14 10:18:09 PM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9778: Dec 22nd 2014 at 10:22:58 PM

Yeah, I'm just going to ignore what Toriyama said, if only because it goes against so many established facts that it borders on sheer idiocy.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9780: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:45:05 PM

Majin ALL THE THINGS!

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#9781: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:46:53 PM

If we're arguing pedantry based on word roots, "android" means "man-like, but not quite". The andro- prefix with the -oid suffix. There's nothing in there about robotics, so even a clay golem would be an android if it resembled and functioned like a human male.

I should also point out that the "male" part is non-negotiable. "Andro-" specifically and exclusively refers to the male sex, so even if 18 was full machine instead of a cyborg, she'd be a gynoid.

As a science fiction term, "android" is defined as a robot with a human appearance. So 17 and 18 (and 20) still wouldn't qualify as androids, unless we consider human beings to technically be robots, but then everyone is an android.

As far as the DBZ universe is concerned, I'd say that 17 and 18 are not androids, but they are Androids with a capital A. In this case, "Android" is not a descriptive noun, but a proper noun referring to Gero's line of robotic/cybernetic experiments.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9782: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:47:20 PM

I meant the androids apparently having no mechanical parts, despite the fact that those were the whole reason why no one could sense their ki.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9783: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:47:51 PM

I'm going to be a bit disappointed if the Majin symbol isn't available for CaCs. It seems like a no-brainer, one of the first things to think of with "non-clothing accessories" which their should be some form of in the game.

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edited 22nd Dec '14 11:51:33 PM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9784: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:50:40 PM

Well, Tenkaichi did allow you to give all the good guys halos when it was equipped.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9785: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:53:45 PM

That was only eight characters that the Halo would actually show up on, though.

Actually the Halo is something else that totally should be a customisation option.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9786: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:57:39 PM

Well, in Tenkaichi 2 you could equip it to everyone. In Tenkaichi 3 however it would only work on those the game defined as "heroes", so a separate item had to be given to the "villains." I think the item might have been the Majin sign, I'm not sure.

edited 22nd Dec '14 11:58:00 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9787: Dec 23rd 2014 at 12:01:14 AM

Yeah, in Tenkaichi 3 the Halo is equipped to good-aligned characters and the "Demon Seal" (Majin charm) to evil-aligned characters. The Demon Seal never shows up, and of all the characters the Halo may be equipped to only 7-8 actually sport a Halo. It's a bit weird.

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#9788: Dec 23rd 2014 at 12:05:46 AM

Weren't the characters that got the halos in-game those who were actually shown with them in the series?

Also, I will never understand that one image of Goku with angel wings.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9789: Dec 23rd 2014 at 12:09:48 AM

Yeah. I still think that's weird though, that they'd only make it for those characters just because those were the ones who showed it in the series. It'd be so easy to add it for every character who can equip it, and just add to the flavour/RP potential.

Speaking of RP potential.

I am so fucking hyped after watching that video. Hot damn, some of those outfits are weird as hell and I love it.

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#9790: Dec 23rd 2014 at 12:13:35 AM

Plus, didn't the game define Android Saga Vegeta and Lapis and Lazuli as villains, as well as a few others that didn't really make sense?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9791: Dec 23rd 2014 at 12:16:44 AM

Android Arc Vegeta was still evil, until the end. Halo not working on him makes sense.

17/18's characters have to cover their future selves as well, so I guess that's why they leaned toward evil for the alignment system.

edited 23rd Dec '14 12:16:54 AM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9792: Dec 23rd 2014 at 8:49:46 AM

Hell, the Halo should only work on GT Vegeta, because Buu Saga Vegeta was still defined as evil by the universe - he still went to hell when he died.

Also, I find it odd that there's a 'Piccolo with Cape' outfit, given that the fact that the custom character shown by the promotional material has a cape with an outfit that obviously doesn't go with that cape. Either that outfit was specifically created that way (which is doubtful), or there's a cape accessory...

edited 23rd Dec '14 8:54:57 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9793: Dec 23rd 2014 at 9:16:44 AM

[up] But he was brought back when the dragon resurrected all the good people who died.

...Also, isn't there something about Majin characters? As in, like, that race made of Buu copies?

I haven't been paying much attention.

edited 23rd Dec '14 9:23:10 AM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9794: Dec 23rd 2014 at 9:41:23 AM

Yeah but that's only at the very very end.

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#9795: Dec 23rd 2014 at 9:44:43 AM

And the wish wasn't to bring back everyone who is good, but to bring back everyone who isn't very, very evil. Despite not being good enough to qualify for keeping his body and avoid reincarnation, Vegeta could still have been not quite evil enough to fall into that qualifier - which was really just there to snub Babidi and Dabura anyway.

edited 23rd Dec '14 9:45:45 AM by TobiasDrake

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#9796: Dec 23rd 2014 at 2:31:07 PM

If the 17 and 18 don't have any mechanical parts, what is powering them?

edited 23rd Dec '14 2:33:25 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9797: Dec 23rd 2014 at 2:34:32 PM

Vegeta is granted a body immediately after his sacrifice, and he has a halo. Even thought that was out of necessity at that point, it'd be silly to make him unable to equip it when he actually had one in the manga.

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#9798: Dec 23rd 2014 at 4:15:01 PM

[up][up] . . . . . Science.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#9800: Dec 23rd 2014 at 4:26:46 PM

So is that how 18 had a kid?

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