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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9701: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:42:04 AM

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I wish he'd found a way to keep it from making every other character irrelevant, while still keeping it.

I mean, I still like Full Power Super Saiyan, and I think Gohan going Super Saiyan 2 is still pretty cool. Maybe if they'd kept the Ascended Super Saiyan concept, which is arguably taking the increased power from Vegeta's muscle increasing Grade 2 Super Saiyan (or whatever it was called) and mixing it with the 24 Super Saiyan concept to call it a fully mastered form.

Too late now though.

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Even if it was a joke, we see Bora tank bullets, and Krillin should have been around that level, or if he wasn't, he's well past it now.

We don't really know what level a human in Dragonball becomes bullet proof (though we can guess it's beyond the level that Hercule is at), so it's hard to say.

edited 21st Dec '14 11:43:50 AM by HandsomeRob

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9702: Dec 21st 2014 at 8:13:51 PM

The thing is, it's not any less of a game breaker if they can just access the power without transforming.

And the God power is far more of a game breaker, which Goku is allowed to keep.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9703: Dec 21st 2014 at 8:19:10 PM

Also, I'd like to point out that it's more of a gamebreaker if he doesn't have to transform. He really shouldn't have access to the Super Saiyan forms without downsides. For all that we gripe about it, at least SSJ 3 is balanced in that it trades overwhelming power for endurance.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#9705: Dec 21st 2014 at 8:56:20 PM

Holy crap, the story looks epic...

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9706: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:21:39 PM

Majin Buu had bullets go into him a few times.

I'm not sure power level is equal to bullet proofness.

I mean, Krillin can probably deflect bullets with his ki or whatever. But not when he's really tired and drained, because unlike Goku his skin and bones aren't weird alien crap.

edited 21st Dec '14 9:23:13 PM by unnoun

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9707: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:24:42 PM

That's because Buu is bubble gum.

I think blunt force does less damage to him (due to his fat absorbing it), but similar to a certain rubber pirate, cutting and piercing attacks do good damage.

Not that it matters.

Krillin hurt Goku by hitting him with a rock once, because the latter wasn't paying attention.

I'm not sure how much of his bulletproofness is due to his alien heritage.

edited 21st Dec '14 9:25:48 PM by HandsomeRob

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9708: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:29:34 PM

Boo is always a bad example because he can turn himself into liquid and allow things to pass through him.

[up] That was filler, and doesn't really make sense since Goku has been uninjured by far greater things when also not paying attention.

edited 21st Dec '14 9:30:08 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9709: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:35:39 PM

I could have sworn that there was that time people thought Goku was dead when Commander Black shot him.

People like Roshi.

Bullets not fired by Launch seem like they actually hurt people.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9710: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:38:36 PM

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Yeah. As soon as I brought it up, I immediately checked, and noted it wasn't in the manga, so that point is moot.

I still say he's bullet proof. He's taken hits much worse from bullets, so being killed by something like that makes no sense.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9711: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:40:55 PM

I think he can deflect bullets but not indefinitely.

I think he needs to actually be powered up to do that.

I think Krillin can get tired eventually, and his human body is not immune to bullets in and of itself. Its his ki that would allow him to deflect them and be impervious to them.

Whereas Goku's from a species that turns into giant monkeys, and evolved on a planet with super gravity or whatever.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9712: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:44:45 PM

Black never shot Goku. You might be thinking of White, who shot Goku with two guns. The first, a revolver, hit Goku completely unaware and did nothing. The second was an "extra powerful pistol" that injured Goku badly enough that Android 8 had to carry Goku away from the tower after the fight was over.

Soon after that Blue threatens Goku with a shotgun and Bulma thinks he won't survive that.

Then after training with Karin, a sniper's bullet hits Goku in the face, which just stings his cheek.

[up] Goku was clearly becoming better and better at taking bullets long before he actually learned proper ki control. While Goku in his first appearance is probably just Saiyan biology at work, becoming stronger clearly makes him more resistant to firearms so the same should apply for Kuririn.

edited 21st Dec '14 9:47:17 PM by Saiga

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#9713: Dec 21st 2014 at 10:07:36 PM

So, this has a good chance of already being posted, but just in case it hasn't Dragonball Evolution 2 confirmed to be in the making.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#9714: Dec 21st 2014 at 10:09:04 PM

I'm surprised no one here is talkin' about Xenoverse.

A tag boss battle with Oozaru Vegeta and Nappa! Ginyu succeeding in getting Vegeta's body! Mr. Satan becoming evil! BEERUS BECOMING STRONGER! Towa and Mira are becoming an unstoppable force to be reckoned with.

[up] DEAR GOD NO...

edited 21st Dec '14 10:10:02 PM by Rinsankajugin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9715: Dec 21st 2014 at 10:10:04 PM

I'm going to remain sceptical, maybe it's the Asia bashing but that article doesn't seem very reputable.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#9716: Dec 21st 2014 at 10:11:50 PM

Yeah, I probably should have looked deeper into that. I thought it was a recent announcement, but it's a few years old at this point.

edited 21st Dec '14 10:11:58 PM by LSBK

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#9717: Dec 21st 2014 at 10:14:10 PM

Oh good, almost had a heart attack there.

Anyways, yeah, that game is looking awesome!

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#9718: Dec 21st 2014 at 10:29:59 PM

Man, I wasn't hyped for Xenoverse until that trailer. Now I can't wait to get it.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#9719: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:02:05 PM

Was that Vegeta as leader of the Ginyu force?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9720: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:04:11 PM

Possibly Ginyu in Vegeta's body.

Though Raging Blast had Vegeta lead the Ginyu Force, I believe.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9721: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:37:15 PM

So...

Why did Trunks cut his hair into the dorky bowl cut? I mean, this is clearly supposed to be Future Trunks. Who kept his hair long. If he was going to cut it, he would've cut it before the Cell Games, when it would've been a nuisance. Also, I'm assuming that he's got his sword back 'cause Bulma reforged it, 'cuz I'm pretty sure it was gone last time I saw it.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9722: Dec 22nd 2014 at 12:01:47 AM

Did you not remember that Trunks went back to the bowl cut after the Cell Games? He only wore his hair long after RoSaT trips.

After Cell is defeated (by Goku, according to Toei) he cuts his hair short once more before returning to his timeline. It's still that short 2 years later when he fights his Cell.

Also, that's a different sword - it has a different design to the one he uses in the manga, anime and movies.

edited 22nd Dec '14 12:13:41 AM by Saiga

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9723: Dec 22nd 2014 at 5:28:52 AM

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Trunks: So... Shenron... could you restore the timeline to what it was before this Time Breaker mess happened. Oh, and for my second wish, please bring me a few moments before the exact point in time when [insert major villain here] began messing with time.

Shenron: No.

Trunks: Oh. Well um... bring the strongest [insert player character here] warrior you can find here so that he can help me fight all of these alternate timelines. And by help me, I mean make him do all the dirty work.

-The plot of Xenoverse begins-

EDIT:

  • Vegeta as the leader of the Ginyu Force.
  • Three Majin Buu's.
  • Evil, possibly superpowered Hercule.
  • Apparently the evil energy affects Kid Buu too... I wonder how that's going to turn out.

I still can't believe they took the concepts from DBO and put it into a video game. How did that even happen? On one hand I'm glad because I didn't get to play DBO, but were this a Western comic book franchise, there'd be all sort of licensing BS in the way.

edited 22nd Dec '14 5:36:00 AM by FOFD

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9724: Dec 22nd 2014 at 5:30:54 AM

Thaaaat wouldn't work with how Dragon Ball time travel works. Then again, it looks like Xenoverse wouldn't work with how Time Travel works, unless you're just saving alternate timelines.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9725: Dec 22nd 2014 at 5:39:40 AM

Now that you mention it - Dragonball Time Travel creates parallel universes. So Time Patrol Trunks is just being an overachiever in trying to stop Towa and Miira, who's actions would only be taking effect on alternate timelines - unless they're planning to bring these villains back to their own timeline and wreak havoc.

Well, IIRC, Time Patrol Trunks was "accosted" by the God of Time and forced to take the role of "time sentinel", so I guess it's just part of his job, securing parallel universes and such.

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If Trunks is concerned with these timelines, there's nothing in Dragon Ball that says Shenron can or can't send you forward or backward in time. Evidently Shenron can summon a warrior strong enough to aid the Z-Fighters/hold his own against Frieza, and I doubt that it was according to the player character's will.

But seriously - wish to be sent back moments before the other person went back in time, kill them, job done. Unless it's a "you can't kill Hitler" situation, but Towa and Miira's backstory wasn't explained in DBO either. I don't think they're a "crucial" piece of history.

edited 22nd Dec '14 5:41:21 AM by FOFD


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