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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9676: Dec 20th 2014 at 9:31:27 AM

It'd be like Ginyu being only capable of using a certain percentage of Goku's power, so he can only use 24,000 of his body's natural 90,000. Then he goes Super Saiyan, and while he should have 4,500,000, he doesn't, he has 1,200,000, because the percentage of Goku's power he can use remains the same.*

  • Numbers are off the top of my head and may be misremembered.

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#9677: Dec 20th 2014 at 3:13:16 PM

The problem with that is Baby was already shown to be waaaaay stronger than Goku when in a lower form so it doesn't make sense that that'd only apply to Super Oozaru.

Also, new information about Revival of F, according to kei17 at Kanzanshuu:

  • Krillin is a police officer
  • Freeza trains for the first time in his life
  • Goku doesn't become a Super Saiyan throughout the movie
  • They haven't recorded the dialogue yet

Chances are, Goku is going to steal Gohan's "no need to transform" schtick.

edited 20th Dec '14 3:28:16 PM by Saiga

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9678: Dec 20th 2014 at 3:41:30 PM

Considering that the whole point of learning to stay as full time super saiyans back in the cell series was so that they didn't waste energy transforming, Goku deciding to try and make his own version of Mystic Gohan (learn to draw out more power with changing at all) seems interesting to me. I'm actually surprised he never considered trying it himself as the logical resolution of that original training.

But this is me probably just overthinking it. He probably never transforms just so that he doesn't flat Frieza one second earlier then we know he will.

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#9679: Dec 20th 2014 at 3:57:25 PM

Nah, given that Toriyama said he probably won't need Super Saiyan 2/3 after Battle of Gods, it's probably something like Goku eventually having his base form as the most powerful.

And Gohan will be a Super Saiyan in the movie. So yeah, I think his the concept for his Ultimate form is just going to be taken from him and used for Goku and maybe even Vegeta.

Also, even if he didn't transform so he doesn't flatten Freeza, many other characters there could easily destroy Freeza without transforming. It's going to be that Freeza is just way stronger than all of them, as Piccolo said.

edited 20th Dec '14 3:58:13 PM by Saiga

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#9680: Dec 20th 2014 at 7:39:27 PM

I'm a little sad about the removal of Super Saiyan 1.

Maybe that's why transformations suck in Xenoverse. Maybe they're trying to wean the fanbase off of them. tongue

edited 20th Dec '14 7:39:52 PM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9681: Dec 20th 2014 at 7:44:48 PM

I wish it had stopped at that, and never gone beyond it, barring full mastered super saiyan.

But then again, that'd be getting back into the power level argument all over again, and I won't be the one to beat that dead horse again.

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#9682: Dec 20th 2014 at 7:47:56 PM

....why is Krillin a cop?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9683: Dec 20th 2014 at 7:56:39 PM

Because nobody could actually have a chance of getting away from him.

I mean, he's bulletproof, can move faster than the eye can see, and is one of the strongest martial artists on the planet, and the most powerful human being on Earth.

Police work is a great job for him, where he can do a ridiculous amount of good, make money for his family (Which they shouldn't really need since his wife got a buttload of money from Satan), and is guaranteed to not be life risking for him.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9684: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:22:33 PM

Krillin as a cop gave me an idea of a world in which law enforcement started training people to use ki which in turn caused ki-wielding criminals to be on the rise.

It would be interesting to see.

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#9685: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:26:24 PM

Why aren't they all cops, then?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9686: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:34:05 PM

I imagine that it's because most of them don't care about everyday problems like crime. Mundane crime is not really something they are concerned with, it's something that doesn't require the Z Fighters stepping in.

Gohan only ever gets into crime fighting because he just so happens to go to school in the city with the most suicidally stupid criminals.

edited 20th Dec '14 8:34:13 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#9687: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:35:29 PM

Well, why not all the humans? Just so they can pretend to be relevant for a couple hours a day.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9688: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:37:39 PM

  • Yamcha is too busy being a loser.

  • Tenshihan is too busy trying to catch up to Goku.

  • Piccolo is too busy not being human.

  • Eighteen has no fucks to give.

  • Roshi would get fired for Sexual Harassment.

  • Buu has the same excuse as Piccollo.

  • Goten and Trunks are too young.

  • Gohan is too busy being a genius.

That just leaves Videl, who already does the job of the Cops, which is probably why they need someone like Krillin anyway.

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#9689: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:37:55 PM

Yamcha is a sports superstar, Tien is a Hermit, Chiaotzu is also a hermit, Master Roshi don't give a tuna casserole if it ain't got sweet bewbs... I think that's pretty much all you need.

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#9690: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:38:39 PM

[up]

That's more or less what I said, with less people included, more accuracy, and less humour.cool

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#9691: Dec 20th 2014 at 9:05:01 PM

Well, the first Broly movie is on Toonami right now.

I had forgotten how horrible Krillin was at singing.

edited 20th Dec '14 9:14:42 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#9692: Dec 21st 2014 at 3:28:06 AM

Did Toriyama develop some kind of grudge against Super-sayian forms?

Krilin being a cop makes me imagine someone shooting at him and him doing a dramatic death scene... only to remember he's bulletproof.

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#9693: Dec 21st 2014 at 4:23:22 AM

I'm not sure Krillin is bullet proof.

I mean, he can probably deflect bullets, but. His soft human meat is probably perfectly vulnerable to them.

EDIT: So Frieza's literally been training from hell.

edited 21st Dec '14 4:49:57 AM by unnoun

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#9694: Dec 21st 2014 at 7:34:31 AM

Krilin has long ago surpassed the level of toughness Goku displayed at the start of the series, so yeah, he is bulletproof.

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#9695: Dec 21st 2014 at 8:28:16 AM

Both Krillin and Kame-sennin have weathered being shot in the head by Lunch with no ill effects, and that was about three digits ago, power-wise. Yes, Krillin is bulletproof.

edited 21st Dec '14 8:28:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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#9696: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:18:43 AM

Well actually, it's been explained that Goku's bulletproof body is actually due to his Saiyan heritage, and has nothing to do with his power level.

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#9697: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:32:24 AM

I think Krillin should be bulletproof.

There was a scene way back in Dragonball where the decidedly non alien Bora tanked a bunch of bullets from the Red Ribbon army.

Plus, he and Roshi have survived numerous machine gun induced tantrums from Launch.

.....And now I have to check the manga to make sure that Bora scene happened in the manga, since Filler scenes apparently don't count at all.

I'll be back.

Edit: Right, I checked, and Bora does tank some bullets.

If he could do that back in regular Dragonball, then Krillin should be pretty bullet proof now.

edited 21st Dec '14 11:35:15 AM by HandsomeRob

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#9698: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:37:26 AM

Kind of surprised Toriyama is dialing back on the Super Saiyan; I guess even he realized how much of a Game-Breaker it is.

It's really bittersweet, because aesthetically, I like the Super Saiyan.

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#9700: Dec 21st 2014 at 11:41:29 AM

Weren't the instances for Krillin and Roshi just gags, and should not be taken seriously? It's the same thing that let Goku go all the way to the Moon to leave Boss Rabbit and his cohorts on to make treats for the moon children; they were doing pretty well for themselves, considering the whole no oxygen thing.

You are now also aware that Roshi committed genocide when he blew up the Moon, what with the moon children and everything.

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