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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9576: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:24:43 PM

Unless you're trying to tie them to feats by calculating the distance character A kicked character B based off the pixels in a scan of the page.

That's probably not going to work.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#9577: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:31:52 PM

Power Levels are kind of unavoidable in these types of series, so it's kind of inevitable they'll pop up.

But yea, its more the power ups than anything else; The Hero(and his rival) will always get the bestest of power ups because they're special and the rest of the supporting cast are not.

So yea, it's not humanity's fault that the superpowered aliens have extremely good genes, shit happens.

edited 15th Dec '14 6:32:08 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9578: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:38:39 PM

[up][up]It does make for stupidly hilarious forum posts.

As an aside, this is particularly funny when the guy doing all the calculations is doing so with a lot of made up figures and using inconsistent art to do it.

It's not that the numbers are confusing, it's that they become meaningless as a measure of how powerful the characters are because the characters do not have one consistent amount of power. As seen when Piccolo's Makankosappo (I can never remember if it only has one P or two, which is the least of my worries spelling that one) was roughly four times higher than Piccolo's own powerlevel.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#9579: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:41:53 PM

Well, that's only because the scouters work more like Geiger counters than actual power readers. It's why Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon had its own power reading, it just measures how much ki is being released in any given area at that point in time.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9580: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:45:39 PM

They do have a consistent amount of power, but they can hold back or use special techniques to boost themselves. It's not like they randomly change power on the fly like a lot of people think they do - closest to doing that is Gohan, with his rage, which he can't control.

The funniest thing about the abridged line is that the joke is that Vegeta doesn't know what he's talking about when he claims that.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#9581: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:49:22 PM

Suppressing your ki makes the reading lower, raising it makes it go higher. I'm pretty sure the analogy still works.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9582: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:51:52 PM

But it's not inconsistent. Your full power is still your full power, your techniques power is their power, etc.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9583: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:55:55 PM

Then explain how the Kamehameha and the Special Beam Cannon had their own, separate readings, explain how the reading goes to practically zero when you suppress your ki, and explain how powering up can make it go higher.

edited 15th Dec '14 6:56:12 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9584: Dec 15th 2014 at 6:57:13 PM

None of that has anything to do with what I said?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#9585: Dec 15th 2014 at 7:13:45 PM

Then what are you even arguing?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9586: Dec 15th 2014 at 7:39:53 PM

I think what Saiga is saying is that.....

Wait a minute.

But I think watching Saiga, IANCE, and possibly Rob butt heads over this would be much more entertaining and fluid.

........

   I AM NOT YOUR DAMN ENTERTAINMENT PUPPET!!!!!!   

You're all on your own now.

~Flips everyone the bird and bows out~

Disclaimer: I did not really flip anyone the bird. I'm just messing around.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#9587: Dec 15th 2014 at 7:42:23 PM

...but I have popcorn.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9588: Dec 15th 2014 at 7:43:49 PM

~Steals Popcorn~

Not anymore.cool

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#9589: Dec 15th 2014 at 7:44:49 PM

~calls in truck full of popcorn~ I have more.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#9590: Dec 15th 2014 at 7:44:58 PM

That's fine, I've got my own unstealable Popcorn bin. You can have some if you want Gojira.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#9591: Dec 15th 2014 at 8:08:28 PM

I'm sure Thief would find some way to steal that Mage.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9592: Dec 15th 2014 at 8:09:22 PM

What you don't know is that Rob pooped in your toaster.

@Saiga

Are we talking in-story or out-story?

'Cause, if we're going purely from an out of story perspective, then it's a different thing. See, in-story, they're practically useless, but outside of it, it's different, simply because we have a perspective that the in-universe characters don't.

I'm a fanfic writer, and that kind of thing is actually really useful for me when I'm writing, by giving me an estimate of how any given character compares to any other character.

edited 15th Dec '14 8:12:13 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9593: Dec 15th 2014 at 8:30:34 PM

What you don't know is that Rob pooped in your toaster.

Whoa! Whoa, whoa whoa!

I'm not an animal IANCE! I don't do that.

I licked all the popcorn instead.cool

Anyway, I think the most important thing about Power Levels is that only the Power Levels of the Saiyans and the Villains are important.tongue

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#9594: Dec 15th 2014 at 9:48:36 PM

The Sayains are the heroes and the villains are the villains.

So only the heroes and the villains are important. How high a character's P. Level will determine whether an actual fight happens.

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#9595: Dec 15th 2014 at 9:52:38 PM

It's worth noting that despite the immense gaps in the characters' battle power, characters too low of level to compete on the battlefield still manage to contribute substantially to the villain's defeat in every arc.

Even Majin Buu succumbed to the giant storage equivalent of the Death of a Thousand Cuts.

edited 15th Dec '14 9:54:03 PM by TobiasDrake

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#9596: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:30:29 AM

On the last page there were talks of not giving Frieza as many transformations. As blasphemous as this might sound, I preferred Frieza's third form to his final form, and I would not have minded that evil grin

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#9597: Dec 16th 2014 at 10:06:56 AM

I, on the other hand, would put Third Form first on the cutting block if we were cutting forms off of Frieza. 100% Full Power would be the next form to go.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9598: Dec 16th 2014 at 1:20:55 PM

I think Freeza forms might have worked if he were more active earlier and had multiple fights instead of one long slog.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#9599: Dec 16th 2014 at 3:06:36 PM

[up]

Yeah. That might have been good.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9600: Dec 16th 2014 at 6:13:09 PM

Also I cant link it on my phone but God Goku and Super 17 were just confirmed for Xenoverse.


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