You're suggesting Vegeta cares much what about other people think.
edited 11th Dec '14 9:16:47 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Does he care enough to fret over it?
I'm not clear on where you're getting the impression that Vegeta is morally opposed to cheating. He didn't seem too perturbed by the prospect of using the Dragon Balls to gain immortality.
He is what the Magic The Gathering community calls a Spike. It's not about innovation or personal development; just the rush he gets from knowing he won and you lost.
edited 12th Dec '14 9:20:12 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It's never really clear what boost the Majin power up really gives for Vegeta, it's implied he was always able to go SSJ 2 unless he couldn't and that's what the Majin power up did for him.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.And you're still ascribing a lot more self-introspection for Vegeta than the story has ever suggested.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.There is an important distinction between a deep analysis of a character, and inventing traits that have never been remotely hinted at.
When his back's against a wall, Vegeta cheats. The act of winning itself is more important to him than doing it fairly. He spent his entire career abusing and trying to abuse shortcuts - the Oozaru against Goku, immortality and becoming a Super Saiyan against Frieza, and finally Majin Vegeta. The Potara actually stands out as the one time Vegeta refused an opportunity for a free power boost.
edited 12th Dec '14 1:13:55 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.No, it's made clear that Super Saiyan 2 was a separate thing. We're told what the boost was by Babidi - just another hidden power unlocking.
Once again, you're just inventing a trait that isn't there. As Tobias said, Vegeta has never shown giving a fuck how he won something. There's simply no reason to think that Vegeta cares about cheating, or would doubt himself at any point.
You're just refusing to look beyond the surface.
This isn't the same thing as any of Vegeta's other objectives. Getting rid of Freeza, avenging his Race, maybe becoming galactic emperor himself on the way - none of those would be rendered meaningless if he 'cheated' to do them. But proving himself superior to Goku?
That would be rendered meaningless by cheating.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariNot to everyone it wouldn't, that's what you need to understand - being willing to cheat can be seen as proving your superiority, if that is what ultimately makes you the victor. Vegeta's shown absolutely no signs that he'd see that as rendering his victory meaningless, and he's never shown any concerns about honour. Hell, he's noted as being particularly honourless as far as Saiyans go, and takes until the Pure Boo fight to even understand Goku's honour.
He most likely does not give any fucks about the possibility that Babidi's help was cheating.
edited 12th Dec '14 4:48:00 PM by Saiga
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Not really proving himself superior, but just seeing how he stacks up in comparison.
edited 12th Dec '14 4:49:07 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I doubt he'd be satisfied with that, though.
Not saying he wouldn't be willing to do it, hell, he does it. What I'm saying is that I don't think he'd be satisfied afterwards. Oh, yeah, he'd be happy for a while, but eventually beating Goku with outside help just wouldn't be enough.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariReally doesn't sound like Vegeta at all. He hasn't spared a single thought for anybody else he's ever beaten or surpassed - he just moves on. Goku he's been more fixated with than most - but even then, he had more of a grudge against Freeza and he's never shown caring about Freeza after the Namek arc.
And he didn't even beat Freeza.
edited 12th Dec '14 5:02:19 PM by Saiga
I think ultimately he was just happy that his race had been avenged, hence his not really caring anymore about Frieza.
He wanted him to die at the hands of Saiyan and though it took a bit longer than he thought (and didn't happen with the dude he thought it would be) that did eventually come to pass.
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Yes. Dragon Ball and its characters have never seen power unlocking as cheap, since it's their power being drawn out by the other party. Goku, Gohan and Kuririn have all done it without complaints and nothing suggests Vegeta has a problem with it. In fact when Goku calls him out on it the only problem Vegeta has is being Babidi's ally.