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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#9476: Dec 8th 2014 at 2:11:05 PM

Plus, his fights are really entertaining.

>_>

<_<

>_>

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#9477: Dec 8th 2014 at 3:01:10 PM

Yeah, but he's not like "OH MAN, I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH. GOLLY, BULMA, WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET MAAARRIEEEEED?"

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9478: Dec 10th 2014 at 10:57:34 PM

Not when Kakarot and the other losers are around, no.

On the other hand, he did agree to take Trunks to the park. And Trunks doesn't act like he's scared of him in the Buu saga.

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#9479: Dec 10th 2014 at 10:58:30 PM

Well, yeah. Y'can be a good dad without also being a giant dork. The entire point of Buu Saga Vegeta was that he grew a little softer. It was natural growth, and even moreso was him selling his soul to Babadi, in its own weird way. To a saiyan like Vegeta, not murdering Trunks for being a whiny baby is probably the wimpiest, least-Saiyan thing he could ever do. He struggled with the idea of both being the ultimate, pure-bred Saiyan murder machine and also being, in his own mind a giant wuss. Once he realized that the relationship with his family made him strong, he was able to grow up and let go of his petty hatreds. He still didn't do a complete character 180, because it takes more than some really good poon to completely reverse three to four decades of identity.

edited 10th Dec '14 11:01:27 PM by SonOfSharknado

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9480: Dec 10th 2014 at 10:59:24 PM

Y'can be a good dad without also being a giant dork.

I don't think Vegeta knows how to be anything else though.

Let's face it. You walked right into that one.

Right. Into. It.

That and.

Well, Vegeta often acts kinda ridiculous at times.

Like, beyond the obvious one. The one you walked right into.

Like, there's plenty of instances in the manga, like when Goku first returns to Earth and they're talking about the androids, where Vegeta makes some big grandstanding boast and everyone else basically ignores him.

EDIT: Also, he's scared of/disgusted by worms.

edited 10th Dec '14 11:13:18 PM by unnoun

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9481: Dec 11th 2014 at 1:22:34 AM

[up] Only in the anime is he scared of worms.

Also, you are ignoring the entire context of that scene; he's taking a major blow to his pride to protect his planet from a God of Destruction with a hair-trigger temper.

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#9482: Dec 11th 2014 at 7:38:14 AM

Even the whole "selling his soul to Babidi" thing is kind of a dork move. He makes a big fuss about how he wanted Babidi to reawaken his heart of evil, but if you pay attention to Vegeta's behavior through that arc, that's really just the cap on an ongoing tantrum he's been throwing over Goku not paying him enough attention.

It's Goku's last day ever, and everyone wants to get their closure with him. For Vegeta, this means one last chance to fight Goku. Vegeta's been complaining about the whole Majin Buu debacle since the moment everyone was all, "Hey guys, let's go deal with Majin Buu instead of letting Vegeta have his fight with Goku!" The straw that broke the camel's back, Gohan's fight with Dabura, probably wouldn't have mattered so much if the fight wasn't wasting precious time; Vegeta still hadn't had his fight, and once Goku's clock runs down, Vegeta will never see him again.

Majin Vegeta is the product of Vegeta forcing the issue out of desperation and no small amount of self-centeredness; like Goku and Gohan, he considered Majin Buu to be a total non-issue, and the only thing that mattered to him was getting his fight. His behavior both before and after the transformation implies that the "awaken my heart of evil" line is Vegeta bullshitting around the fact that he basically just endangered the entire planet and killed a bunch of people because he wanted attention.

edited 11th Dec '14 7:39:57 AM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9483: Dec 11th 2014 at 7:45:47 AM

The thing about wanting Babidi to reawaken his evil has probably less to do with him wanting to be evil and more to do with him wanting to get rid of the inhibitions that prevent him from just forcing the issue. Bulma and Trunks shaped inhibitions. And hell, his own (grudging) respect for Goku is also preventing him from forcing the issue.

His massive ego probably prevents him from thinking things through, just as much as it prevents him from being mind controlled. Vegeta could've just as easily stepped in when Gohan and Dabura were trading bitchslaps, saying "This is taking too long" and engaged in the age old art of kill-stealing on Gohan.

Sure, Goku would've whined for a bit, but it would've solved the arc's problems way before they started.

edited 11th Dec '14 7:46:06 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#9484: Dec 11th 2014 at 8:12:20 AM

I'll say it once again, the entire Majin Buu Saga is Vegeta's midlife crisis; his opportunity to settle old scores from years ago and finally move on and maybe settle down with his family, all obstructed because some wizard decided he wanted to take over the world at that point.

I'd be a little peeved too; maybe not sell my soul and endanger the planet itself for the sake of a fight, but I'd be pretty damn bitter about it nonetheless.

I don't think Vegeta would have even minded as much if Goku was stronger than him if they were able to just have their fight as scheduled.

edited 11th Dec '14 8:13:07 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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#9485: Dec 11th 2014 at 8:15:59 AM

Hell just going, "Look! A pizza!" and then blasting through the ship while Goku was distracted - just like Gohan and the Supreme Kai ultimately wound up having to do anyway - would have ended the Majin Buu arc before it ever began, with time enough left for everyone to go back to the Tenkaichi Budokai and finish out the day.

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#9486: Dec 11th 2014 at 8:17:51 AM

This is true.

I mean, he was lucky enough to draw Goku right off the bat, when the tournament had a pretty huge chance of not even letting that happen.

I can understand a little why he believe that the two of them fighting each other was destiny.

Still makes him an ass. The really funny thing, is that with the power he had, he could have killed Dabura, Babidi, and everyone else in that ship, and prevented Majin Buu from being born himself, then kicked Goku's ass like he wanted.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9487: Dec 11th 2014 at 9:38:31 AM

I seem to recall there being a What If? story in one of the games in which Goku and Vegeta decided their fight was more important than the Majin Buu business, so Goku and Vegeta stayed back at the Tournament while leaving the Majin Buu problem to the others.

This, of course, wound up being for the best, since after their fight gets interrupted anyway, Goku and Vegeta just go on to solve the problem in like five seconds so they can get back to fighting.

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#9488: Dec 11th 2014 at 9:58:07 AM

I believe that's Tenkaichi 2.

edited 11th Dec '14 9:58:28 AM by Blackyakuzu94

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9489: Dec 11th 2014 at 10:19:29 AM

It's the one that's unlocked by beating Gohan with Goten, right?

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#9490: Dec 11th 2014 at 10:30:04 AM

Yup, that's exactly it; Gohan gets injured and Videl nurses him. Apparently spopvich and Yamu were never under Babidi's control in that one.

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#9491: Dec 11th 2014 at 11:37:48 AM

Vegeta didn't throw a tantrum because Gohan was taking too long, it's because he felt Goku's power and realized that he's still much stronger than him. It was the realization that he can never catch up to him on his own that made him seek Babidi's help.

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#9492: Dec 11th 2014 at 12:16:59 PM

Nobody's saying he threw the tantrum because Gohan was taking too long. We've pretty much universally agreed that he wanted Goku's attention.

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#9493: Dec 11th 2014 at 12:25:59 PM

It has nothing to do with wanting Goku's attention or thinking they might run out of time to have their battle. If that was his problem he would just jumped in to killsteal Dabura and speed things up. His problem was that he realized he'd get his ass kicked by Goku if they fought.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9494: Dec 11th 2014 at 12:34:00 PM

If it'd been about that, Vegeta would've just challenged him. His pride is such that even if he'd won, he wouldn't be satisfied unless he did it solely with his own power.

And he knows this.

edited 11th Dec '14 12:34:21 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#9495: Dec 11th 2014 at 12:45:02 PM

[up] That is completely contradictory to what Veveta says. Shlugo's right.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9496: Dec 11th 2014 at 1:11:21 PM

It's no less true, though.

Characters lying, and lying to themselves, isn't anything new.

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#9497: Dec 11th 2014 at 1:15:45 PM

Also, who's Veveta?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9498: Dec 11th 2014 at 1:29:56 PM

No it's just something you made up.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#9499: Dec 11th 2014 at 2:02:23 PM

Can you tell me that Vegeta would be satisfied winning like that?

All it takes is someone pointing out "Hey. It wasn't you who did it. It was the power boost Babidi gave you.", and then it'd be the same as if he'd never won to begin with.

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#9500: Dec 11th 2014 at 3:41:37 PM

[up][up][up]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velveeta

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