That seemed more like raging over his loss and roaring in frustration than meditating.
Though his anger did push him to surpass Super Saiyan, so maybe for him, that is meditating.
One Strip! One Strip!Oh, you mean when Trunks was watching him just before Goku showed up to take them to the Hyperbolic time chamber / Room of time and spirit.
I guess, it's just that.....Vegeta doesn't really seem like the meditating type, especially at that point in the series.
I mean, I know this is an exaggeration, but.....
It is kinda what he did.
One Strip! One Strip!Do we actually see how Vegeta became a super saiyan in the manga?
I mean, I know he gives the pure evilexplanation, but do we get any kind of Flash back of the moment he crossed the thresh-hold?
One Strip! One Strip!I like the anime version then.
I think it covers the whole thing pretty well.
Well, ok, I don't so much like the anime version as I like the TFS version, cause that's fucking hilarious.
And I guess it's true that Vegeta can do emotions beyond anger (His utter heartbreak and pleading to Goku to avenge the Saiyan race before his death being one such example).
He's just so well known for his rage.
One Strip! One Strip!You're assuming that my headcanon states that it's only possible for fusions and dead people to do. Technically, it's not, but it's so difficult it might as well just be called impossible and be done with it. Fusions get away with it because they have a ridiculously high base level to begin with.
I'm just trying to make sense of it, dood, and I don't see you giving any better explanations.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariBut again, the fact that dead Goku can do it, and the little difference between dead Goku and living Goku, still means the idea that it's too difficult really implausible.
I have no idea what you're trying to make sense of. There's nothing that needs further explanation. Unless you're talking about Vegeta.
Well, Goku got it before Vegeta because he was slightly stronger and stayed ahead of him. Ignoring the stuff after the manga, there's no reason to think Vegeta couldn't have done it after the Boo arc with more training. Battle of Gods and GT didn't give it to him, but video games have, and it all has the same validity to me.
edited 21st Nov '14 9:20:43 PM by Saiga
Yeah.
Remember, Goku burned up the bulk of his time on Earth going Super Saiyan 3. Since he was dead, this was obviously a substitute.
I actually wonder how aware he was of this, since I think that while he was surprised by how little time he had left, he wasn't surprised that he'd lost time using it.
One Strip! One Strip!...I'm pretty sure Saiyans have more durable bodies than humans of equivalent power levels. Like, Master Roshi's a lot stronger than Goku for a lot of Dragon Ball, but worried about fighting the Red Ribbon Army, and thought Goku died when Commander Black shot him.
I imagine that Humans can deflect bullets with ki auras. But if they don't, human meat is more fragile than Saiyan meat.
Also, if we say that Goku's power level of 2 as an infant counts, then as a Great Ape his power level would have been 20. I think Grandpa Gohan's power level was in the 100s. I think it was like 140. Like five to seven times stronger. But Great Apes are also really really heavy. So.
EDIT: Specifically for the Super Saiyan 3 stuff, I thought it was like how 100% Frieza put a strain on his body.
...Also, sorta wonder why nobody tried the Fully Powered Super Saiyan trick with the other levels. Just using it like a new base form.
Like, with the Ascended Super Saiyan, and/or Super Saiyan 2, working up to Super Saiyan 3.
edited 22nd Nov '14 7:51:19 AM by unnoun
Maybe Goku has been doing that off screen.
It wouldn't surprise me. Especially if he still wants to use Super Saiyan 3.
I mean, he might encounter a Beers level enemy again someday (or one who while not as strong, is still pretty powerful) and when that happens, a fully mastered Super Saiyan 3 would be useful.
One Strip! One Strip!I see Super Saiyan 3 as taking a good thing and pushing it past the point of usefulness. I don't think it's at all practical for a non-dead or non-fused character to use since it drains stamina so quickly. Sure, technically anyone could get to the point where it doesn't matter, but that seems like setting goals way too high to meet.
I'll create a mary sue Saiyan and I don't give a fuck. After DBZ Kinect failed to make me feel like a Saiyan and thus grant my childhood wishes, I deserve this.
edited 22nd Nov '14 10:00:39 AM by Cruherrx
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."Isn't the character we create pretty much a Mary Sue by default?
After all, it's a personality-void puppet used mostly to fulfill its creator's desires.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

No he doesn't, he meditates as well. We see him meditate in the series, after losing to the Androids.