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Just saying that before Namek, death was a big deal, since people could be revived with the dragonballs only once. If they had died again, it would have been permanent. But after that, yeah...except that Dende had to be kept alive for the balls to even function. If he died, they would have been screwed. Then there was Future Trunks' timeline, where Piccolo ended up dying, meaning no revivals for everyone killed by the Androids.
@favourite attack: Limited to manga/anime, or can it be from games as well?
edited 15th Nov '14 10:08:06 AM by Diamite
The "Death is meaningless because of the Dragon Balls" thing is actually very, very wrong, and for a very simple reason.
If the heroes die before the villain is defeated, the world is fucked. Just like that.
The Dragon Balls can't 'break tension' because the heroes first have to survive their fights in order to use them. More importantly, they have to win, so that using them isn't pointless.
Sure, they enable otherwise unworkable plans, such as sacrificing the entire population of Earth to buy some time for Goten and Trunks to train themselves up, as well as the usage of suicide attacks that would be inviable otherwise, but they can't kill tension because if the heroes lose, the world is fucked anyway.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariYeah, and Super Buu outright wrecked that plan.
Piccolo: Okay, we'll distract the super-villain by letting him wipe out earth's population and-"
Krillin: Er, Piccolo, he just murdered 99.9 percent of the Earth's population while you were tal-"
Super Buu: Okay, I killed all the humans. NOW FIGHT ME OR I DESTROY THE EARTH.
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Then there's Kid Buu.
Goku: Alright Vegeta, we've rescued everyone! Now we just need to finish off Buu, grab the Dragon Balls an-
(cue Buu destroying the planet, Piccolo included, thereby undoing most of their efforts and forcing Goku and Vegeta to flee by the skin of their teeth)
Actually, something that Goku is often called out upon actively saved the universe right then and there. 'Cause Goku was able to think fast enough that he rescued Dende and Mr. Satan.
Admittedly, rescuing Gohan would've led to the same result...
But Goku in Super Saiyan 3 form could take Kid Buu anyway, so at that point, they'd basically already won.
Cell's reactions to attacks that surprise him are awesome.
Like the first Final Flash.
edited 15th Nov '14 11:44:12 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariYes, as others have noted, the Dragon Balls make clean-up between arcs easier, but contribute nothing to actually ending the threat of the villain. The only time the Dragon Balls ever actually contributed to defeating a Big Bad was Vegeta's master plan against Majin Buu.
No, he couldn't. He thought he could, but he sorely underestimated the awfulness of Super Saiyan 3.
It's debatable whether or not Ultimate Gohan could, but it's probably yes given his performance against Super Buu. Super Vegito would have made short work of Pure Buu. Super Saiyan 3 Goku, however, just wasn't strong enough nor stable enough to win the fight - a lesson he learned very harshly when his attempts to recover his energy, get a Second Wind, and come back swinging while Vegeta bought time resulted in Super Saiyan 3 bleeding his ki dry and kicking him back out to Base.
edited 15th Nov '14 12:03:51 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Even his dead body could only take it so much.
He burned up all his time using it if you recall.
One Strip! One Strip!Goku lost not because he was weaker, but because he overestimated his body's endurance and underestimated the strain the Super Saiyan 3 transformation put on his body.
His power when not restrained by a body of flesh most likely would've been enough to win. Heck, he probably could've won if he'd tried the 'gather power and blast him all at once' plan right from the start. But a very consistent character flaw Goku has throughout the entirety of the manga is exactly the attitude that almost led to Buu's victory.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariCell's regeneration simply surpasses Piccolo's.
No head needed.
Edit: Oh right. The core. I guess it's just very sturdy. I mean, it also survived when Cell exploded himself.
edited 15th Nov '14 1:22:29 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!We just went over one. Goku blew off his head and he regenerated just fine.
There's also the fact that just regrowing his head and upper body took a HUGE amount of ki. It made Cell weaker, because he has Namekian regen, which takes energy to perform.
So if it substantially drained him to regrow just half of his body, why did it make him super more powerful to regrow his entire thing? He should just be weakened to the point of helplessness.
