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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#85401: Jul 20th 2018 at 4:53:51 PM

Bardock's visions are definitely important to the plot of the story, and make a lot of sense from the point of view that he's unable to change the future he saw (which is why stories about him defying that are bullshit).

I do find it questionable that he had such a high battle power from zenkai, and I could have done without it, but that's one unnecessary line. Everything he actually did could have been done with a lower battle power anyway.

I don't think Minus' version of the wipeout really fixes anything. Freeza controlled the Saiyans, so he'd know who was deployed (as evidenced by the fact that Raditz knew Goku was sent to Earth). If he knew that only four Saiyans were deployed, then it's a perfect opportunity to destroy the planet and lie about what happened.

Freeza calling everyone back, then not waiting for everyone to get back, and then pretending a meteor destroyed the planet at that exact time most of them arrive is just silly. I prefer the idea that he took advantage of a good opportunity, and the ones who slipped through the cracks did so because there was such a small number of them.

Minus also contradicts the idea that Freeza deliberately spared Vegeta, as he was also given the order to return to the planet but chose to ignore it of his own volition.

Edited by Saiga on Jul 20th 2018 at 10:02:07 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#85402: Jul 20th 2018 at 4:59:49 PM

Important detail from the trailer.

When Broly goes for the attack, he goes straight for Vegeta first.

This means that Broly appears to no longer have his violent obsession with Kakarot anymore.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#85403: Jul 20th 2018 at 5:01:23 PM

Or he doesn't realize who Kakarot is yet.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85404: Jul 20th 2018 at 5:51:51 PM

Why did Freeza even need to lie about destroying the planet?

No surviving Saiyan was a threat to him. And I guess he kept getting work out of the survivors but that was three people. One of which was on the level of his red shirts.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#85405: Jul 20th 2018 at 6:09:27 PM

Even for a paranoid fuck Frieza’s fear of the Saiyan’s power was an extreme overreaction.

Especially with the knowledge that they can actually stop getting Zenkai boosts meaning Saiyan’s can in fact have a level cap.

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#85406: Jul 20th 2018 at 6:11:14 PM

[up][up] Because he likes to pretend he's reasonable and polite.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#85407: Jul 20th 2018 at 8:33:11 PM

Same reason he runs a planet-brokering business even though he has no use for the economy?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#85408: Jul 20th 2018 at 8:42:22 PM

Was it ever mentioned who the Hell are his buyers?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#85410: Jul 20th 2018 at 9:06:11 PM

If we lived in a world where planets could be bought and sold, you can be dang sure that rich people would buy them just to say they did.

Edited by LordVatek on Jul 20th 2018 at 12:05:54 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#85411: Jul 20th 2018 at 9:15:26 PM

Yeah, but then someone who's richer would probably buy that planet and kill the first group of guys.

And before you think, ''Frieza wouldn't do that because that would be screwing over his previous clients, remember that in the Dragonball universe, you can do whatever you want if you are powerful enough, and Frieza was the biggest dog in the yard.

If someone offered him enough money for a planet he'd sold to someone else, of course he'd repossess it from the latter group, because he can.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85412: Jul 20th 2018 at 9:24:38 PM

Also there's only twenty some habitable planets or something?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#85413: Jul 20th 2018 at 9:25:59 PM

Well, at least they stayed in circulation right?tongue

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85414: Jul 20th 2018 at 9:29:05 PM

Fair enough I guess

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#85415: Jul 20th 2018 at 9:40:01 PM

Technically, I think Supreme Kai said there were 28 planets "with intelligent life" on them. I don't know that he said those were the only habitable worlds in the universe.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#85416: Jul 20th 2018 at 11:20:45 PM

I'm no astronomer, but that's still an absurdly low number. Doesn't take a genius to know that considering how huge the universe is.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85417: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:03:31 AM

If there are only 28 planets with intelligent life on them, then Freeza's business isn't doing too good.

More and more this idea of the planet selling organization just does not gel with anything else in the setting.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#85418: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:04:53 AM

Even though it still wouldn't make sense on a universal scale, Frieza, Beerus, and maybe Buu have all destroyed a lot of populated planets. So there's that, the number has to have been reduced over time.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 21st 2018 at 2:16:18 PM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#85419: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:15:08 AM

beerus was destroying planets just because he didnt like the cuisine. so yeah presumably buu, beerus, and freiza/sayains fucked things up.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#85420: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:16:40 AM

Guess the planet selling business was just for fun cause why else would Frieza sell stuff for money when he could just take it all?

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#85421: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:28:03 AM

Remember that Freiza is also very lazy. He managed to equal SSB in four months with no indication of difficult training, and he sits around in a floating pod all day instead of flying or even walking and still manage to be the strongest being alive in the universe pre-Namek, instead of growing weaker like Gohan.

His power level never changed after he was born, so he's the equivalent of those guys from Wall-E(as in having the motor abilities of a baby), yet for him that still enough to kick the ass of everyone else.

TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#85422: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:41:04 AM

Dragonballs universe has only 4 galaxies though, 28 seems like a fair amount considering that.

And I realize that the 4 galaxies is mostly a filler thing but I don't want a Dragonball where Grand Kai and the otherworld tournament aren't canon at some level.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#85423: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:44:53 AM

Even a single galaxy has billions of earth-like planets in the livable zone of stars.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#85424: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:47:37 AM

It's more plausible to say Shin is that awful at his job that he severely miscounted

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#85425: Jul 21st 2018 at 12:52:58 AM

Viz has posted Chapter 38's translation. Let's just say this one tests how much you'd enjoy the battle royale concept, among other traits.


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