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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#8326: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:45:53 PM

I think it's safe to assume Beerus was on a whole 'nother level. Beerus > Gohan > Buu > GSK

Not to mention South Supreme Kai was the strongest of the five, and even he was only about on par with Buu (Or weaker).

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edited 23rd Sep '14 7:46:53 PM by Anomalocaris20

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#8327: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:46:18 PM

[up][up] I remember South was the strongest, I just thought that was apart from Grand.

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:46:34 PM by HamburgerTime

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#8328: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:49:32 PM

If he was that strong he would easily destroy Boo before the letter could do anything.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#8329: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:52:16 PM

[up][up] Wouldn't make sense, East always refers to the 5 as "the Kaioshin" so it should be the same when he says South is the strongest of the Kaioshin.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#8330: Sep 24th 2014 at 7:47:20 AM

I guess these games really don't have any semblance of balance. Even though you can have Yamcha defeat Omega Shenron, the stats are still skewed heavily in the latter's favor.

The Dragon Ball fighting games are unashamed in their use of Character Tiers.

Which I am okay with, because the series proper is also unashamed in its use of Character Tiers.

With the apparent focus on online play that Xenoverse appears to have, my biggest concern is that they are going to try and balance all the characters, to make sure the Yamchas of the game are always a fair and equal match with the Super Buus. That they are also focusing heavily on creating your own characters mitigates this fear, but only slightly.

I just feel like Super Saiyan Goku should be objectively better than Base Goku. Final Form Frieza should be objectively better than Second Form Frieza. Super Perfect Cell should be objectively better than Imperfect Cell. Etc.

edited 24th Sep '14 7:50:54 AM by TobiasDrake

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#8331: Sep 24th 2014 at 8:00:10 AM

On that last point, I hope they actually call him "Super Perfect Cell" or some other acceptable monicker, instead of having "Perfect Form Cell" and "Perfect Cell".

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#8332: Sep 24th 2014 at 8:18:49 AM

Ya guys think the Ox King mask, the Namekian fin crests and the hints towards Jaco and Oozaru might indicate original Dragon Ball characters like Kid Goku, Tamborine and King Piccolo?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#8333: Sep 24th 2014 at 8:19:37 AM

Hopefully they'll, like, take the Dragon Ball Heroes roster minus giants, and make them all playable. tongue

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#8334: Sep 24th 2014 at 9:02:14 AM

[up][up][up] Yeah. I don't care if it sounds silly. It makes sense. After his zenkai, he's SUPER Perfect Cell, just like Super Vegeta, Super Trunks, Super Saiyans as a whole, or Super Buu.

Cell (Perfect Form) and Perfect Cell just sounds redundant.

EDIT: I never actually understood Super Perfect Cell in the video games before I read the manga. As I've mentioned before, I missed most of the Cell Saga when I was watching the anime. When I saw Super Perfect Cell in the games, I thought it was strange that they'd give him a form that's just Cell powering up stronger. His cries of, "Even MORE Perfect!" when he transformed into it didn't help.

I think it'd be neat to see a game incorporate Super Perfect Cell as a consequence of an attack; like with Goku's Super Spirit Bomb that auto-transforms him into Super Saiyan, I'd like Cell (Imperfect Form)'s self-destruct to be his Ultimate, and for it to auto-transform him into Super Perfect Cell rather than just achieving that state through normal transformation methods.

edited 24th Sep '14 9:21:59 AM by TobiasDrake

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#8335: Sep 24th 2014 at 11:13:10 AM

Cell (Perfect Form) and Perfect Cell just sounds redundant.

I for one can't tell which is supposed to be the stronger one.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#8336: Sep 24th 2014 at 11:20:55 AM

We know what Super 17 Cell Absorbed looks like, but what would Cell Super 17 Absorbed look like?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#8338: Sep 24th 2014 at 11:24:44 AM

That looks nasty for some reason.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#8340: Sep 24th 2014 at 11:29:29 AM

Cell-X needs to be Xenoverse. It's disturbing, but it could have a unique moveset.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#8341: Sep 24th 2014 at 11:52:48 AM

Doesn't look very mobile.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#8342: Sep 24th 2014 at 12:03:44 PM

Sure he looks frumpy, but more legs means faster, spider-like movement!

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#8343: Sep 24th 2014 at 2:31:39 PM

For Cell's naming, I prefer Viz's take. They translate it as 'complete' rather than 'perfect' as the Japanese word used can be translated as either. Then when Cell comes back from his self-destruct, he refers to himself with a different Japanese word that only translates to Perfect.

So for me, Complete Cell and Perfect Cell would be best. But 'perfect' for Cell in general is too ingrained for me to use it.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#8344: Sep 24th 2014 at 2:33:12 PM

Cell under a full moon.

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Handsomerob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#8345: Sep 24th 2014 at 2:34:31 PM

Still Improving Perfect Cell.tongue

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#8346: Sep 24th 2014 at 2:36:51 PM

I sorta wish they'd make a Super Android 18 for the games.

Like, I actually kinda hated the Super Android 17 saga, but. I dunno.

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#8347: Sep 24th 2014 at 2:49:44 PM

If Cell got another zenkai, what would he call himself then? Ultimate Cell? Final Cell? Absolute Cell? The Artist Formerly Known As Cell?

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#8349: Sep 24th 2014 at 3:31:02 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
Yunochan Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#8350: Sep 24th 2014 at 3:51:32 PM

I just want to get Dragonball Xenoverse ASAP. It seems like it'd be so much fun and I don't do any of that online battling stuff often.


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