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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#78751: Feb 15th 2018 at 7:10:36 PM

He was strong enough to fight Dabura because he trained with Shin in place of Gohan. Even then, it was a hard won fight, with Shin and the Z Sword (Elder Kai) dying in the process.

edited 15th Feb '18 7:11:31 PM by Zeromaeus

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78752: Feb 15th 2018 at 7:17:31 PM

And that's still the Trunks we know who had a lot of benefits that Cell's Trunks didn't.

Future Gohan is definitely the better comparison here. He got ganked by the Androids.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78753: Feb 15th 2018 at 8:48:45 PM

I suppose when you put it like that, it makes sense. However I want to know why Cell's Trunks never realized there was some kind of bug monster eating people for the two years Cell was in his own timeline, since he stated that "at first there was resistance", meaning he was "born" really weak and had to eat thousands of people before he could have a chance of absorbing the androids/killing Trunks. It also makes me wonder how Too Clever by Half Dr Gero was when he knew that, if he was already dead by the time Cell emerged, it probably meant that the Z-Fighters would be around to stop the bug monster before he surpasses them in strength

[down] Oh yeah, I forgot about that

edited 15th Feb '18 10:36:49 PM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#78754: Feb 15th 2018 at 9:20:22 PM

Cell was really good at hiding his ki.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#78755: Feb 16th 2018 at 2:22:22 AM

How did Cell learn to hide his ki?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#78756: Feb 16th 2018 at 2:25:25 AM

The same way he learned to fly or shoot Kamehamehas.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#78758: Feb 16th 2018 at 2:46:05 AM

But he should have no idea how to, or even that it could be done. He would have no examples of it being done. Vegeta at least came into contact with people who could manipulate battle power.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#78759: Feb 16th 2018 at 3:02:33 AM

Super Dragon Ball Heroes Universe Mission 1 Commercial (there's a spoiler for Super at the end):

Future Trunks fighting Fu, DBS Goku fighting Time Patrol Goku, Mai looking worried, Beat going Blue, and at the end you can actually see Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku on Vegeta's card as a small icon.

edited 16th Feb '18 3:34:11 AM by Rinsankajugin

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78760: Feb 16th 2018 at 3:20:20 AM

Here's something to think about-did Cell know that time travel works on multiverse theory and not the ripple effect? And if so, how did he figure it out? If he didn't, wouldn't him trying to destroy the Earth be suicide since he won't be born for another 19 years, and spends another 2 eating people to mature? Especially when he explains he's in an underground bunker. With no way of knowing how the timeline works, Cell's immediate concern after Piccolo gets away should be to make sure no-one gets near that bunker

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78761: Feb 16th 2018 at 3:25:49 AM

Because if Time Travel didn't work on multiverse theory Cell's timeline wouldn't still be around after Trunks' successful travel to find a way to destroy the Androids.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78762: Feb 16th 2018 at 5:19:39 AM

Let's be honest Cell's genetic memory letting him use other people's moves didn't make a lick of sense

Getting regeneration or zenkai boost or surviving in space fine

But the kamehameha or solar flare were techniques that had to be learned

I guess maybe Geri had VHS footage of fights that Cell watched so he could instantly learn the moves after seeing them once. It'd be funny if Cell missed the androids because he was too busy binging Netflix

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#78763: Feb 16th 2018 at 5:26:18 AM

Cell is a biological quandary but let us not think to hard on it.

"Mai waifu."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78764: Feb 16th 2018 at 5:29:35 AM

Dr Gero's scientific focus is as perplexing as Hank Pym's for that matter

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78765: Feb 16th 2018 at 5:44:59 AM

Let us not forget he was raised by Gero's computer.

The machine most likely helped him learn everything.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78766: Feb 16th 2018 at 5:49:09 AM

Itd be funny if he learned through some manner of VR simulation

That were basically DBZ video games

edited 16th Feb '18 5:49:21 AM by Bocaj

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#78767: Feb 16th 2018 at 7:18:33 AM

That Heroes trailer is neat. More of SS4 Goku fighting SSB Goku is good, can't believe it took them this long to do this, but whatever. Does Vegeta's card name his new form? Can't tell if it's just Heroes' wonky lighting or if Mastered Ultra Instinct is going to be Super Saiyan Silver. Either way, it'll be cool.

edited 16th Feb '18 7:18:41 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#78769: Feb 16th 2018 at 9:28:52 AM

[up][up] Mastered UI is definitely silver, and we still don't know Beyond Blue's official name yet. We do know that the card's special attack is Gamma Burst Flash, though.

[up] You wouldn't believe the field day 4chan had when they found out.

edited 16th Feb '18 9:30:11 AM by Rinsankajugin

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#78770: Feb 16th 2018 at 9:38:39 AM

Now, imagine a series following Super. Imagine Gohan gets that form. Imagine he has to fight a high ranking member of an ecclesiarchy. It could happen.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#78771: Feb 16th 2018 at 9:53:54 AM

[up] Might wanna blank that out lest people figure out what's in the spoilers.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#78772: Feb 16th 2018 at 10:13:40 AM

Yeah, but would anybody actually believe Shaggy taught Vegeta de wey?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#78773: Feb 16th 2018 at 10:17:50 AM

Can I just say that I really like the fact that Goku has the Capsule Corp. logo on his gi in Heroes?

edited 16th Feb '18 10:18:15 AM by LordVatek

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#78774: Feb 16th 2018 at 10:19:55 AM

Open question:

How do you think the series would go if Raditz never came to Earth? What sort of hijinks would ensue knowing what we know now from Super? note 

And what would be the series be like if Toriyama never introduced the Saiyans? How far do you think it would have gotten? note 

edited 16th Feb '18 10:34:48 AM by Soble

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#78775: Feb 16th 2018 at 10:24:08 AM

Not much, I imagine. The androids likely wouldn't be as powerful, but Gero clearly overcompensated anyway and would have no fewer resources. So, death by androids minus one Trunks to fix it.

EDIT: To the second question, its hard to say. Dragon Ball was certainly popular as a gag manga, but the serious arcs were where it got its main following. There's a good chance it wouldn't have lasted as long.

edited 16th Feb '18 10:26:09 AM by Zeromaeus


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