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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#78701: Feb 14th 2018 at 11:01:04 AM

That's because Yahweh is pretty much on a Mary Sue tier as far as deities go, and shouldn't be taken as the standard, specially on Japanese media.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78702: Feb 14th 2018 at 11:09:43 AM

Zen'o is like if Azathoth was cute. I both love and hate him for it. Though mostly I am terrified of him

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#78703: Feb 14th 2018 at 11:46:29 AM

Toppo definitely would've made a more interesting final boss than Jiren.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78704: Feb 14th 2018 at 12:04:24 PM

Well Toppo is cooler than Jiren after all.

That fat fucker actually has a character arc.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#78705: Feb 14th 2018 at 12:13:45 PM

[up]And it is one of revenge.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78706: Feb 14th 2018 at 12:18:14 PM

Revengeance is served

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78707: Feb 14th 2018 at 12:46:58 PM

[up][up] hah, amazing

I like the tournament planet idea, that's cool. Or maybe a moon/satellite so it's not too big but the idea is very neat, you can have your stage have places to hide and shit from the very start

Zen-Oh would just need to be given the ability to view everything on the planet like Dende's divine ability. Or through a crystal ball or whatever.

I don't mind U 11 being the final bosses of the tournament. Just make them close enough in power to U 7's heavy hitters that neither side wants to go all out before the rest of the enemies are dealt with. Instead of sandbagging, Goku and Vegeta are trying to keep a low profile (defending themselves when forced to) justifying the focus on other characters.

As interesting as Toppo is I don't want him as the strongest of U 11 or the final boss. From the beginning I liked that the one being trained to take over as GOD was actually the second strongest. They just needed to develop Jiren sooner and have a more compelling personality.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#78708: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:10:11 PM

[up][up][up]So that's why Toppo was willing to give up on justice...

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#78709: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:14:27 PM

The new Heroes saga is called the "Prison Planet Saga" and features a bunch of heroes fighting each other. That sounds vaguely similar to the tournament planet idea.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#78710: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:19:51 PM

Is it going to involve fodder for Goku to defeat with ease until the final boss where he loses, again?

"Mai waifu."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#78711: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:23:43 PM

The only fight we know of is Super Saiyan Blue Goku vs. Super Saiyan 4 Goku so I have no idea how to answer that question.

This song needs more love.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#78712: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:49:28 PM

See, that is why I love Heroes and wish Xenoverse was more like it.

Kosjurake The Wildest of Ronins from Tokyo LOCCENT Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
The Wildest of Ronins
#78713: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:54:03 PM

I know that the tournament of power is just too large, but I'd kind of love to see it get compressed into a movie. As sort of a reverse of Super turning the movies into arcs for it. But I'm not really sure how'd they compress everything unless they cut like half the fighters or something, which wouldn't be a bad thing admittedly.

Though even that probably wouldn't be sufficient to cut this down to like 90 minutes. You'd have to do the intro stuff, the explanation and eh just too much stuff to cram into a movie without basically completely ruining the 'tournament' aspect. Maybe two movies? I dunno. Its not gonna happen either way. -shrug-

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#78714: Feb 14th 2018 at 3:49:51 PM

[up] That is not gonna happen for the reason being that they have to wrap up the plot within single movie. It also require some planning on Toei's part, a large tournament like the Tournament of Power is too large for one movie especially if the characters are forgettable.

"Mai waifu."
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#78715: Feb 14th 2018 at 4:43:44 PM

Mmm, what if we had gotten a bracketed tournament, with 2 teams of 10 members ducking it out at a time, with the universe that loses all 10 members losing, and the winning universe advancing with its remaining fighters?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78716: Feb 14th 2018 at 4:54:17 PM

Huh I think I found a rough translation for the Ultimate Battle song.

Ti-ti-ti-ti-time to fight Sta-sta-sta-sta-stand above the rest Jyan jyan byan byan the Ultimate Battle Has no meaning, it is just fighting

I'm glad I got to meet amazing guys like you Is it alright if I show off my strength? Full power, breaking limits From this point on, the Gods will watch in awe

Ti-ti-ti-ti-time to fight Sta-sta-sta-sta-stand above the rest Jyan jyan byan byan the Ultimate Battle Has no meaning, it is just fighting Se-se-se-se-seriously? He-he-he-he-Heaven and Earth Jyan jyan byan byan will burn in pillars of fire There is no meaning, it is just fighting Until ego turns to nothingness

When my fist goes astray, the sky breaks When everything is destroyed, what is born? One-hit kill ten million times When my body is tattered and broken, where can I stop and rest?

Ti-ti-ti-ti-time to fight Sta-sta-sta-sta-stand above the rest Jyan jyan byan byan the Ultimate Battle Ho-ho-ho-ho-how foolish Ho-ho-ho-ho-how cruel Jyan jyan byan byan I'll laugh at fate When the Spirit Bomb is pushed to its limit It will shine eternally

Existence awakened, limits reborn Surpassing consciousness, the fight continues Se-se-se-se-seriously? He-he-he-he-Heaven and Earth Jyan jyan byan byan will burn in pillars of fire

Ti-ti-ti-ti-time to fight Sta-sta-sta-sta-stand above the rest Jyan jyan byan byan the Ultimate Battle Ho-ho-ho-ho-how foolish Ho-ho-ho-ho-how cruel Jyan jyan byan byan I'll laugh at fate It has no meaning, it is just fighting Until ego turns to nothingness

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78717: Feb 14th 2018 at 5:04:15 PM

I could see the Universal Survival Saga working as a movie, but it would need more than 90 minutes. 150 minutes at the minimum, though 180 minutes would probably be best. You'd need at least an hour and a half just for the tournament alone, much less all the stuff before it.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78718: Feb 14th 2018 at 5:28:58 PM

I've been trying to think of how Zamasu's timeline works. This is what I got

  • 764: Trunks arriving causes a split that makes Future Zamasu and Present Zamasu/Goku Black separate entities as the main timeline is created
  • 766: In the timeline where Cell and Future Trunks originate, Goku dies
  • 767: In the timeline where Cell and Future Trunks originate, the Androids are released, conceiving the impetus behind Trunks' "sin" and the existence of Future, Present, Fused and Goku Black Zamasu
  • 779: Present Zamasu becomes evil. Influences from the future split the main timeline into the unaltered "Goku Black" main timeline where Zamasu succeeds at killing Gowasu, and the altered main timeline where Beerus destroys Zamasu. Goku Black and Present Zamasu become separate entities at this point, and the original Present Zamasu travels a year into the future. The replacement timeline is created
  • 780: The main timeline has the tournament of power, and the erasure of entire universes. The original Present Zamasu becomes Goku Black and travels to the future timeline, allying with Future Zamasu, wishing him immortality. The same year in the Future timeline, Son Gohan dies at the hands of the androids. In all timelines Zamasu is seen present, the year 780 involves calamity and the ushering of apocalyptic events, except for the replacement timeline where Beerus and Whis catch on and terminate them. The only casualties are Gowasu and Rumsshi. In four timelines, Universe 10's God of Destruction and Supreme Kai die
  • 781: Goku Black and Future Zamasu wish to destroy the Dragonballs
  • 781-795: Goku Black and Future Zamasu terminate all other Gods of Destruction and Kaioshin outside of Universe 10, and travel across all twelve universes to terminate mortal life
  • 785: Trunks travels back in time, resulting in the main timeline. From Goku Black's perspective, this creates his timeline
  • 788: Cell travels back in time, resulting in the future timeline(and by proxy, the main/Goku Black's). From Future Zamasu's standpoint, this ushers in his own existence
  • 795: Goku Black and Future Zamasu attack Earth
  • 796: The Future Trunks Saga. From Goku Black's perspective, he and Future Zamasu indirectly create the events leading up to them. The timeline Future Trunks comes from is terminated

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#78719: Feb 14th 2018 at 6:13:04 PM

Personally, I would have liked to see Paparoni established as the main threat of Universe 3 from the very beginning.

Speaking of Universe 3, I'd have liked to see Nigrisshi get more play. A cool design like that deserved more than being one shot by Cabba.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#78720: Feb 14th 2018 at 8:59:02 PM

I know that the tournament of power is just too large, but I'd kind of love to see it get compressed into a movie. As sort of a reverse of Super turning the movies into arcs for it. But I'm not really sure how'd they compress everything unless they cut like half the fighters or something, which wouldn't be a bad thing admittedly.

Tournament of Power would have worked better (if they'd used my version where Boo and Cell get in, and Resurrection F is retconned out of existence) as a film.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78721: Feb 14th 2018 at 9:41:13 PM

A finale film...?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#78722: Feb 14th 2018 at 9:47:14 PM

Precisely.

I have the feeling it was meant to be the third film and then Toei or Toriyama thought, "Money!" and decided on Super.

A third film with Jiren on the cover with those buns of his, a tournament of new fighters, some new information about Saiyans, and an epic final clash with Universe 7 on the line - building on the implication Beerus left Goku with in BOG about there being stronger universes out there.

Imagine the quality animation of Goku vs Jiren and Goku vs Kefla... for a feature-length film about 1/3rd of which will be miscellaneous battles.

Biggest problem with TOP is pacing and inconsistency right? Compress that stuff and you have pure shonen gold. I can tolerate Super Saiyan Blue getting nerfed and Goku being an unstoppable bulldozer as long as I don't have to wait months to see it.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#78723: Feb 14th 2018 at 10:51:03 PM

A third film with Jiren on the cover with those buns of his

Are you saying that Jiren's toned butt would be one of the primary reasons that a hypothetical TOP movie would make money?

...Because I'd have to agree with that assessment tbh.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78724: Feb 14th 2018 at 11:05:21 PM

How good is this butt? What's it's power level?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78725: Feb 14th 2018 at 11:12:10 PM

Well, what percentage of Jiren's body mass does his butt take up, and how strong are the butt muscles compared to the rest of the human muscles? Also, what's Jiren's Power Level?


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