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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78651: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:15:16 PM

In the Super manga, at least, we see the scene where 17 returns to life (or am I remembering it wrong?), and 16 isn't there even though they died in the same place.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#78652: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:18:15 PM

Turns out that in GT, Android 19 went to hell when he died, which would mean that Dr. Gero figured out how to create artificial souls, and also that he didn't give one to Android 16 for some reason.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#78653: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:19:58 PM

19 had a brain, so he'd been human at some point.

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Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#78654: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:20:37 PM

16 staying dead is just chalked up to plot convenience, probably. Toriyama wanted Gohan to succeed Goku and so, the sacrifice that triggered his power-up probably sticked out of respect for that. Android 8 was purely mechanical and was revived with the Namekian balls, so that's probably the better explanation.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#78655: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:20:51 PM

Eighter came back from Buu, at least.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#78656: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:21:05 PM

That's kind of fucked up actually

19 never really had any choice but to be evil. He lived but briefly, helped blow up a city, and then died and was sent to hell. Not even robot hell.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78657: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:24:00 PM

Which is a shame, because the music in Robot Hell is way better than the one Freeza ended up in.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#78658: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:26:40 PM

You know who Toriyama commented in an interview did stay dead, though? Tao and Shen. And yet Ginyu came back.

So in terms of evilness, assassin and jerk martial artist > second-in-command of Genocide Inc. Mmmmmmmmmkay.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#78659: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:27:43 PM

Its not like Ginyu was even redeemed or anything because he gets back up to his old shenanigans the very instant that he's able.

What the fuck, dragon

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#78660: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:29:09 PM

Shit. I liked Ginyu coming back.

Guess we just have to blame Toei for being dumb.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#78662: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:32:38 PM

There's the possibility the dragon considered him an animal, though, and thus restored him with the wildlife rather than the people.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#78663: Feb 13th 2018 at 9:33:16 PM

Something that abridged Shenron might do, even.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78664: Feb 13th 2018 at 11:56:48 PM

@ Hamburger Time: Maybe the dragon thought him being a frog was punishment enough, and doesn't give him the sweet relief of death. Taginyu compares his time as a frog to Frieza being in literal Hell, after all.

Actually, I never got why Yamu didn't come back. You're telling me he really belonged on "the most evil"? It's stated Babidi can control people with evil in heart, that doesn't mean they were originally evil. Just had a dark side. And if Yamu has an Even Evil Has Standards moment while Brainwashed and Crazy to be even more evil, and doesn't even kill people that we know of, he can hardly be called more evil than your average criminal. Which did come back, given how crime rates didn't plummet upon revival. He can't even be called more evil than the Pilaf Gang considered they at least vied for world domination and responsible for multiple attempted murder, and implicitly caused King Piccolo to return. What, just because Yamu served a Complete Monster against his will, that's bad enough for him to be on the naughty list? Man, sucks for him

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#78665: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:43:20 AM

I think Jiren's backstory is bad because it's basically Belmond going "Everyone Jiren ever knew died so he decided to become strong!". There's no attempt at emotionally connecting you to what happens. They don't even show the faces of the people close to him who get killed. So why should you care that much?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78666: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:48:39 AM

People dying is apparently enough to get those feels...

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#78667: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:50:16 AM

Instead of just having narration we should have had a full episode devoted to Jiren's backstory.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78669: Feb 14th 2018 at 2:05:06 AM

[up][up]Or no backstory?

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#78670: Feb 14th 2018 at 2:28:09 AM

[up] Also acceptable.

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GarnetRebeller96 Since: Nov, 2015
#78671: Feb 14th 2018 at 2:52:39 AM

So I just finish the Tien saga from the original show. And it was spectacular. My god, truly one of the best saga,

Now I know, I can't help but disagree with anyone who says the original series was merely "okay or uninteresting."

There was tons of badass fights and awesome character development during that saga.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78672: Feb 14th 2018 at 2:59:03 AM

No one said it was uninteresting...

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GarnetRebeller96 Since: Nov, 2015
#78673: Feb 14th 2018 at 3:06:41 AM

I ran into a decent amount people who said that before.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78674: Feb 14th 2018 at 3:09:52 AM

Obligatory disrespect then.

They were out of line.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#78675: Feb 14th 2018 at 4:26:51 AM

So guess what dropped yesterday.

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