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AngryRabbit Pessimism! from the internet Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Pessimism!
#78301: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:30:09 PM

You can probably word the wish to bring everyone who died/disappeared/perished/lost/whatever during the tournament.

Edit: I liked Krillin's fights because I liked Super trying to legitimize the other fighters, even though in the back of my mind I think "It's too late for that".

edited 10th Feb '18 11:37:07 PM by AngryRabbit

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#78302: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:35:47 PM

Reading Goku disappearing vs Krillin is such a better experience than watching it. The sound design is really important to that scene, and the anime botches it by having his footsteps be the big overblown jumping sound effect. In the manga, the sound effect only indicates it as being a faint, getting slowly louder tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap BOO!

edited 10th Feb '18 11:36:30 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78303: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:37:45 PM

Poor, poor 17.

He made a valiant sacrifice as bizarre as it was.

Its a better sacrifice though cause unlike Vegeta he actually appears to suffer consequences for it. God I can't believe were gonna waste another episode on Vegeta having a last stand.

Like the Final in Final Flash the Last in Last Stand no longer has meaning.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78304: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:37:58 PM

Kuririn never really gains the upper hand, only appears to and it all ends up being bullshit.

Also, the other thing I remember getting annoyed by was how Goku didn't want to use the giant Kamehameha on Piccolo because he had swallowed the sealed Kami.... but if he killed Piccolo, Kami dies anyway (which I'm pretty sure was established in that same arc).

So there's a lot of confusion when it comes down to that final battle in the arc.

That's not what happens. Goku doesn't want to kill Piccolo because God will die as well, not because God was inside Piccolo.

Then Kuririn mentions that they can wish back Goku with the Dragon Balls, because it hadn't been established yet that God dying will render the balls inert. Goku figures that out later, on his own.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78305: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:39:56 PM

[up]It's not like Piccolo wasn't also holding back. Both fights have that as a factor in why Krillin was able to do so well.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#78306: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:42:44 PM

Is he really doing well, if it's only because his opponent is letting him?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#78307: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:44:23 PM

Well, Krillin's at least coming up with inventive strategies, so it's more than he ever got to do in Z quite frankly.

edited 10th Feb '18 11:44:52 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78308: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:45:59 PM

[up][up]Yes. He still looks cool and does cool things. Not the weaker parties' fault that the stronger party could be much stronger. Anyone who puts up a fight against the Saiyans in their lower forms still can look good doing it. Freeza having infinitely higher forms on Namek doesn't mean the people who fought him in his lower forms didn't look cool while doing so.

edited 10th Feb '18 11:46:36 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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Funny but not helpful
#78309: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:46:09 PM

He served an important role as bean holder and jobber

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78310: Feb 10th 2018 at 11:57:23 PM

The difference is, while Piccolo is holding back he gets impressed by Kuririn, even after he accidentally hits him harder than he intended and Kuririn shakes it off.

Like neither fight is amazing which I'm fine with because it's Kuririn, the 23rd is just more enjoyable and sells the impression a lot better.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78311: Feb 11th 2018 at 12:09:28 AM

Piccoro is worse at holding back than Kakarrot.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#78312: Feb 11th 2018 at 12:46:37 AM

Vegeta is even worse than Piccolo.

"Mai waifu."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78313: Feb 11th 2018 at 12:46:47 AM

Yeah know if we do get another show after Super ends that continues the apparent plot-lines like the exploration of the renaming 4 universes and Zeno & the God's cruelty Jiren would make a good ally.

I say might cause this is a big what-if & only if they were willing to inject more people do stuff than just Goku & Vegeta. God I miss Z's cast shake-up.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78314: Feb 11th 2018 at 12:49:23 AM

I'd be down for Jiren and Hit to join the main team of major fighters.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#78315: Feb 11th 2018 at 12:50:22 AM

That will not happen as Goku and Vegeta are the top sellers in Japan especially Goku and the writers don't know how to handle the other characters in the series.

"Mai waifu."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78316: Feb 11th 2018 at 12:54:24 AM

[up][up] I know it be awesome.....

[up] But that, that's the problem.

They can't even handle Vegeta well. Its just constant repetition of the what the character went though for sheer lazy milking. We've had to go through him making a last stand around 3 times this whole arc with only a small handful of episodes in between each. Do we really need another episode of him getting his ass beat by Jiren?

edited 11th Feb '18 12:55:01 AM by slimcoder

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#78317: Feb 11th 2018 at 2:13:03 AM

Man, this thread went the way I expected it too.

LOL [lol].

Oh? What's that exactly?

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Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#78318: Feb 11th 2018 at 5:33:20 AM

Jiren: And that's my backstory.

Belmod: Truly, a sad one.

Android 17: I don't know, seems pretty lame to me.

Belmod: What? Do you even have any idea what tragedy is?

Android 17: Well, my father was a drinker, and some old hag turned me and my sister into killing machines, and some monster ate us to destroy the planet.

Belmod: Well, that's...

Krillin: I was bullied in school.

Belmod: That's not...

Piccolo: My father was the evil half-of god, and he forced me to avenge him, following a fate I didn't want.

Belmod: Wait, your father was a god?

Roshi: My master was killed by a demon.

Jiren: Oh, yours too?

Roshi: Yeah, but I got over it.

Gohan: The King of demons captured me for world domination after my uncle killed my dad.

Piccolo: Sup?

Belmod: What the...

Vegeta: My whole planet and race was destroyed by that asshole over there.

Jiren: Why are you still working for him?

Vegeta: Survival, you moron!

Goku: I killed my grandpa with a transformation I wasn't even aware I had.

Jiren: Dude, that's sad. So, what is that guy backstory?

Frieza: I don't have one, I simply enjoy being evil and making annoying call backs to better sagas.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#78319: Feb 11th 2018 at 5:50:04 AM

[up] Gotta admit, that made me chuckle. [lol]

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#78320: Feb 11th 2018 at 6:47:32 AM

What's funny to me how is how everyone would complain how Gohan fans wanted him to do more than he should have. Yet, they're perfectly fine with 17 doing more than he should have :V

Anything to have somebody not Goku shine huh.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78321: Feb 11th 2018 at 6:49:23 AM

People is bias...

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#78322: Feb 11th 2018 at 6:52:37 AM

[up]X4 That was really funny

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haseo Since: Nov, 2010
#78323: Feb 11th 2018 at 7:20:23 AM

17 is totally alive. I mean, they had a plan whose entire goal was "make Jirn not see the attack coming" but looked like a lazy rehash at first glance. And what a better way to make a surprise attack then by attacking with someone the enemy thought was dead. Goku and Vegeta probaby played being out of energy and Goku instant transmissioned 17 out of sight after he cancelled the attack.

Also is it me but the lady next to the evil being in the flashback looked like android 21?

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#78324: Feb 11th 2018 at 7:22:50 AM

[up] That would just make things worse

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#78325: Feb 11th 2018 at 7:35:31 AM

Jiren's backstory is whatever, but its interesting how it doesn't necessarily resonate with what we've seen in the manga. Meaning we may get an entirely different backstory there.


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