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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#7801: Aug 18th 2014 at 12:41:33 PM

You think it'd be possible to have the Tech-Tech aliens as an option for customization? Gure might have not been a fighter, but the other people in her race seem to be quite ruthless despite being adorable.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#7802: Aug 18th 2014 at 2:35:03 PM

Sorry for the double-post, but I got bored and collected every piece of info to make a roster out of every playable character in DBH. Look at all the SSJ-3's and Majins.

Imagine if Dimps made a fighter with that roster.

edited 18th Aug '14 2:38:06 PM by Rinsankajugin

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#7803: Aug 18th 2014 at 2:40:28 PM

[up] A Dragon Ball fighting game with that kind of roster be beyond epic, but honestly, it's a pipe dream. And besides if the roster was that large, you would even play up to a quarter of those characters before choosing that one character that you're the most comfortable with... which would be most likely one of the Saiyans or the Majins.

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#7804: Aug 18th 2014 at 2:43:31 PM

Majins would probably work better as just an optional article, like the halos some characters can wear. Perhaps adding additional dialogue for certain characters like Vegeta. It would be easy to just merge Majin Vegeta and Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta into one character since the latter doesn't do much besides BE Majin Vegeta.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#7805: Aug 18th 2014 at 3:08:05 PM

Also, when researching DBH, I found it weird how the Neko Majins were playable, but Arale was a support character. She's been playable in Dragon Ball games before, why not here?

Also, that reminds me. A Neko Majin race in DBXV, does it sound like a good idea?

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#7806: Aug 18th 2014 at 4:31:30 PM

[up] Seeing as how America and Europe as a whole haven't had that must exposure to the Neko Majins in the first place, I doubt they will add them.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7807: Aug 19th 2014 at 4:26:59 AM

For the Majin characters, I think they should be nothing more than costumes. The only really difference with the Majin boost is that it increases power, but it's not even its own form - Vegeta used Super Saiyan 1 and 2 with it. The techinques Majin Vegeta used are all things he could logically do without it, and so the only thing it brings is a power increase. But Goku's Super Saiyan form ingame is meant to represent him while fighting Freeza all the way to the Boo arc, the same form despite their being several increases in power over that time. Hell, the same goes for the character's base forms. So I don't think the Majin form needs to be made separate because of a power increase. Just make it one of Vegeta's costumes, then we can have him a Majin in any form we'd like.

edit: Oh yeah, and the power increase isn't even part of the Majin spell anyway. That was something separate Babidi did, so it makes even less sense to tie it into the form. Vegeta post-death is just as strong as Majin Vegeta was because he kept the power.

edited 19th Aug '14 4:27:56 AM by Saiga

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#7808: Aug 19th 2014 at 4:31:09 AM

[up]I don't know. I think the difference between Majin Vegeta and SS2 Vegeta was their state of mind. Majin Vegeta was kind of batshit insane.

The other majins, though... Yeah, costume only.

(Imagine if it was an accessory available to all characters. I could make a Majin Majin. :p)

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7809: Aug 19th 2014 at 4:37:30 AM

No he wasn't. Majin Vegeta was the one who saved Goten and Trunks, divulged all his feelings about Trunks Bulma and Earth, regretted Gohan's apparent death, sacrificed himself for their sake (and even Goku's) and was pretending not to care the entire time.

New image. Both dogi worn by the characters on either side of the original CaC shown are from DBO, so it looks like they're taking a lot of references from their for clothing. Which is a damn good idea, DBO had plenty of variety in outfits.

edited 19th Aug '14 4:41:26 AM by Saiga

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#7810: Aug 19th 2014 at 4:57:45 AM

[up]It took Buu mopping the floor with him for him to do that. Majin Vegeta is also the one who blew up an arena section full of innocent people.

...on the second topic, my Majin kept running around in her underwear when I was playing DBO. I wonder if the game will let us do that :p

edited 19th Aug '14 4:59:30 AM by BaffleBlend

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7811: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:00:17 AM

Nope, he regretted Gohan's death before fighting Boo. He was also in denial while fighting Goku, and Goku got him to admit it.

One section of the stadium stands is the best Vegeta could do after literally having every part of his evil brought to the surface. He's a big ol' softy.

edited 19th Aug '14 5:00:23 AM by Saiga

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#7812: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:12:45 AM

Says volumes about Vegeta, doesn't it? Blowing up half a stadium is a step up, on the good meter, for him.

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#7813: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:13:43 AM

But that's explicitly a step up on the evil meter at that stage. So yes it does say volumes about how good he is.waii

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#7814: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:18:00 AM

In the big picture, I meant. He blew up entire planets and slaughtered millions of innocents in his days as miscolored Vegeta.

Fast forward a chain of humiliating beatdowns, and we're at Buu's Arc. And having released all his latent evil, half a stadium is, all things considered, not the worst thing he's ever done.

It's a positive development, but when half a stadium worth of casualties is a positive development...wink

edited 19th Aug '14 5:19:17 AM by Mrsunshinesprinkles

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7815: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:19:18 AM

Those people probably deserved it. Probably the worst kind of people, cheaters like Yamcha.waii

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#7816: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:22:12 AM

I'd rebutt, but any potshot at Yamcha is a [tup] in my book.

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#7817: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:48:02 AM

Huh.

Considering that Bulma immediately worked to revive the people that were killed (and Vegeta probably knew this), I must admit, Majin Vegeta really wasn't nearly as evil as he wanted everyone to think.

Well, we already knew he was kidding himself about wanting to be the perfect warrior again and all that.

So I'm trying to figure out a good power level for the Supreme Kais / Kaioshins.

East Supreme Kai says all of them would have made Frieza their bitch, but he does prove to be sorely mistaken about how strong many characters are (at the least, he badly misjudges the power of the Saiyans).

He struggled to hold Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, who fought equally (though sloppily) with Dabura (Gohan did go to stage 2 during that fight didn't he? Now I'm actually less sure), who was as strong as Cell had been seven years prior.

Fat Buu could have been beaten by Super Saiyan 3 Goku if the latter had tried (though whether he would have succeeded before he ran out of time is an issue as well).

Kid buu was about equal with Super Saiyan 3 Goku as well, and that's the form that defeated most of the Kais.

We also know that Gohan was stronger in Super Saiyan 2 when he was a kid (or at least he fought smarter) according to Vegeta.

I gotta say, it's hard to tell. We only had the word of someone who's shown to be wrong multiple times to garner how strong they were.

If we go generally by the fact that they were all probably stronger than Super Saiyan 1, but weaker than say, any form of Super Saiyan 2, then I would guess that maybe they were no more powerful than Bojack's gang, but that's probably underselling them by quite a bit.

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#7818: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:51:50 AM

East Kaioshin was definitely right about making Freeza their bitch, since he himself is stronger than Piccolo who could do that at this stage. And he was the weakest.

He wasn't really proven wrong about what he already knew, he just didn't know the depths of the Saiyan's power.

Anyway placing the others is hard. Gohan pulling the Z-Sword implies that he was stronger than the previous Kaioshin in that form (whether Super Saiyan 1 or 2) and so do Kaioshin's comments about him. But then if you take the Buff Boo thing to mean that Pure Boo + Kaioshin is stronger than Evil Boo, then that'd make South Kaioshin significantly stronger than a Super Saiyan 2.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#7819: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:57:20 AM

That's not even taking into consideration the fact that other races may have grown stronger (not just the Saiyans) in the absence of the majority of the Kais.

Clearly, East couldn't fill the role very well on his own, since guys like Frieza and the Saiyans started wrecking shit.

You know, I may stick with my around the same level as Bojack theory truthfully.

And now, to start imagining that fight between West Kaioshin and Zangya that I've been dreaming of.cool

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#7820: Aug 19th 2014 at 6:02:37 AM

Readiing Buu's arc.

I could complain about how this arc doesn't know whether it wants to be Dragon Ball, or Z, but then I remember the main villain is a giant blob of chewing gum that turns people into candy.

Buu is the best,

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#7821: Aug 19th 2014 at 8:25:27 AM

edit: Oh yeah, and the power increase isn't even part of the Majin spell anyway. That was something separate Babidi did, so it makes even less sense to tie it into the form. Vegeta post-death is just as strong as Majin Vegeta was because he kept the power.

Wait? A Power increase doesn't come with the Majin power-up?

But what about Spopovitch? He went from weaker than Hercule (normal human level without Z-warrior level training) to being able to fly and toss energy blasts. That must have been done by the Majin power.

Does this mean that Babidi can increase power levels, or unleash hidden potential?

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#7822: Aug 19th 2014 at 9:27:56 AM

Being able to make Frieza your bitch is nothing impressive by android arc standards much less Boo arc. Trunks did just that on his first appearance and power levels only skyrocketed from there. Post Boo arc Frieza level opponents are considered a good work out for the kids. So East Kaioshin statement isn't really unbelievable.

I always assumed that South Kaioshin is probably around Dabura level, maybe a little stronger, with the others being around Cell Games Sayians level (excluding SSJ 2 Gohan of course).

edited 19th Aug '14 9:59:43 AM by Shlugo_the_great

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#7823: Aug 19th 2014 at 9:46:56 AM

They did say they're equal to 1000 Friezas (at least in the dub), so that either means ~530 million or ~120 billion depending on the form they're talking about.

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#7824: Aug 19th 2014 at 9:50:15 AM

[up][up] That Trunks thing was only in the anime though, in the manga he was only about as powerful as Goku was back on Namek; since he didn't give Frieza time to power up to 100% like Goku did, Trunks was able to destroy him in seconds. Granted, Goku could have done the same thing to Frieza even if he did go all out, since Goku's battle power was 30 million points higher than Frieza's.

edited 19th Aug '14 9:51:03 AM by Ssj3Gojira

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#7825: Aug 19th 2014 at 10:05:04 AM

Apparently people have been pointing out a Frieza-esque looking character in the background of one of the smaller screenshots of the new DBXV magazine scan. Changelings soft-confirmed?

edited 19th Aug '14 10:05:40 AM by Rinsankajugin


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