I assuming Frieza himself has had something to do with that.
He's likely wiped out a large number of species.
Though someone gave an explanation for it I can buy (because Frieza is lazy considering he's powerful enough to basically do the job himself), I agree with this.
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As above, so below, I guess. Earth is 90% empty wasteland so why shouldn't the universe follow suit.
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I think your expectations are misplaced. If a person likes that that Super give Vegeta more wins, as doing things with him, then that's simply their reason.
Simple reasons aren't bad, ya know.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:04:12 AM by GarnetRebeller96
No, I think my expectations are pretty fine. I never had any delusions about Dragon Ball being perfect, that doesn't mean I want it to get worse. I never understand why people go "Things weren't totally perfect before, so it doesn't matter if they get shittier."
Super is trying even less than Toriyama originally did.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:08:16 AM by LSBK
For all of Super's faults, this is the most stupid one in my opinion.
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I mean, not really. Fan Wank is more often about trying to explain away things from the series people don't like (like how Tien is seriously for real stronger than Krillin) than about fixing inconsistencies.
And even that should be necessary because if Super is to be a continuous it shouldn't have to make up it's own rules only to ignore them like two seconds later.
How is "Goku gets manhandled by Kale in Blue, but can later on take on a stronger Kale and Caulifla together while only in God" a nitpick? Things are just flat out more likely to not make sense in Super. If you don't personally care about that, it's your prerogative, but it doesn't mean other people are wrong for doing so.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:28:03 AM by LSBK
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I mean, do you want a list of problems with Z?
-Vegeta learns ki sensing despite having absolutely no idea how it should work -Zenkai boosts are massively, massively inconsistent. Vegeta also at one point tells Krillin that self-inflicted injuries don't count even though both Goku and Cell prove otherwise. -Super Saiyan at first required a huge degree of training and an insane emotional trigger, then it just required a huge degree of training, and finally you just got it. In addition, despite Goku going berserk when he first got it in every other instance we see it it induces no real emotional state -Cell comes back to life after self destructing
These are just the inconsistencies. There are also a lot of moments where an explanation is given, but the explanation makes no sense whatsoever.
That being said... all these problems are dialed up to 11 in Super. There are just too many examples to count. But honestly if people had ten years they could probably develop fan wank theories to explain away all of that as well.
Jiren calling Toppo isn't so much OOC (since anime Jiren has given us no personality to work with) so much as just making him look really petty and pathetic.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:36:57 AM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"I don't know why you're talking as if I said Dragon Ball didn't have problems. That's exactly what I'm talking about, I do not understand why people think saying "This other thing had (a lot of) problems, means you shouldn't be upset about problems in this." You can have issues with both, that doesn't mean one can't be much worse about it than the other.
Even if I took all of your inconsistences at face value (I don't) saying they exist doesn't somehow make Super better or mean people are wrong for having complaints about it. In fact:
- I'm not really sure what Vegeta learning ki-sensing is supposed to be inconsistent with. It was just a thing Goku could do after drinking the ultra divine water, and it's never portrayed as hard to do.
- The Zenkais are only an issue if you assume that ever one should give an equal amount of power for some reason. You could argue that the jumps are arbitrary, but I see no reason why them not all being the same is an issue, especially considering their purpose.
- We've been over the Super Saiyan thing before, that's not the story being inconsistent, that's just you not liking how the story ultimately portrays it.
- Cell's regeneration and issue, but not just because he self-destructed. The explanation was that his nucleus in his head happened to survive the blast, lucky, but not impossible. The real issue is him regenerating after Goku blow off his top half, even though the aforementioned nucleus, should have been destroyed when that happened.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:42:47 AM by LSBK
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I love how the Abridged Series just totally glossed over that first part.
Vegeta: While I was on Earth, I learned a new trick; I can sense energy.
Dodoria: How the hell'd you do that?
Vegeta: I'unno.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:37:06 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest
No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!

There's also that official sources have put the number of planets under his control in the 40s or maybe 400s.
Space is pretty unpopulated I guess?
if he's the emperor of the entire goddamn universe.
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