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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#77101: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:36:58 PM

Don't worry PMC. I understand how you feel, I've been on those shoes before.

Of course I enjoyed the originals eries. When I was re-reading Dragon Ball, the original Dragon ball was the most fun to read, while of Z, I only found the Frieza arc and half-the Buu arc entertaining, which is ironic since I found the Frieza saga to be the most boring of them all when I was a kid.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#77102: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:37:22 PM

I really like 17's theme.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#77103: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:40:55 PM

Personally I feel that Super waste the potential it has, and the things I like about it are just the smallest amount of that potential leaking through. All the Go Ds, Zamasu, all the teams, Freiza coming back, Ultra Instinct and etc. Even if the Kefla and Goku battle was BS in terms of power levels, I still enjoyed it for being an actually entertaining battle, rather than what happened this episode. My favorite was Piccolo and Gohan facing U6 Namekians, because both sides fought with dignity and no arrogant speeches followed by "Impossible!" and treating the battle seriously.

edited 3rd Feb '18 8:41:18 PM by Ikedatakeshi

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#77104: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:42:07 PM

I believe you mean "Masaka...?!"

edited 3rd Feb '18 8:42:27 PM by Saiga

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#77105: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:43:47 PM

I agree with you. I feel the arc became boring the moment Hit and Cabba were defeated, since it meant the interesting dynamic was gone. After that, we got Caulifla and Kale shilling, Universe 4 being retards, Universe 3 revealing their master stroke, and Universe 11 being arrogants without being complex about it.

This is the Super Buu fight all over again.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#77106: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:44:37 PM

Universe 7 OP, plz nerf. Seriously though, ever since Frost was a dumbass and trusted Frieza, Universe 7 has only lost its members once in a while and usually either Taking You with Me or trickery. I don't think there's a single member who lost in a straight 1-1 fight. Even now, they have the number advantage. Talk about Plot Armor

Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#77107: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:47:49 PM

I don't think there's a single member who lost in a straight 1-1 fight.

There have been Universe 7 members that lost one on one fights before in the Tournament of Power (Goku losing to Jiren, Vegeta losing to Jiren, and Freeza losing to Toppo). It's just that they didn't get knocked out of the ring.

[down] Now that I can agree with

edited 3rd Feb '18 8:52:23 PM by Awesomekid42

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#77108: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:49:50 PM

Yeah the worst part about Super is all the wasted potential.

This arc really could have been executed better.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#77109: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:57:27 PM

That's a consistent complain about Dragon Ball in general.

Raditz = Wasted Potential

Zarbon = Wasted Potential

Android 17 = Wasted Potential

Dabura = Wasted Potential

Gt = Wasted Potential (Except Super 17, that was horrible from beginning to end)

Super = Wasted Potential

Honestly, I'm not even sure why I'm still here. This is the Sonic the hedgehog situation all over again.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#77110: Feb 3rd 2018 at 8:58:40 PM

I can understand most of those even if I don't necessarily agree, but how was Zarbon wasted potential?

edited 3rd Feb '18 8:58:58 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#77111: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:00:16 PM

[up] Ditto. Understand, but disagree with all of those, and confused on Zarbon.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#77112: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:01:43 PM

[up] I'm quoting Laughing Stock Media. I don't like him, he has a boring voice and matter of speaking.

People generally like Zarbon, and some believe he could make a compelling character if explored a bit.

Ok, I'm mostly cheating, I couldn't think of a wasted potential situation in the Freeza saga. Nail?

edited 3rd Feb '18 9:03:33 PM by Tomodachi

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#77113: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:01:56 PM

While I understand the complaints against U7 being the one to defeat almost all of the other universes, I actually feel that this specifically was explained and executed rather well. Having Goku and by extension U7 become enemy number 1 to all other universes in the tournament gives a good reason for almost all of them to target U7 and turns our universe into the underdogs with the odds stacked against them. I would've liked if we got to see a little more of the other universes fighting each other, though.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#77114: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:02:11 PM

Zarbon seemed really fine to me. Honestly one of the better sub-villains of the series.

I do wish they did more with Nail's concept though. Having Piccolo get swole by inheriting other Namekian's power (like the two namekians in the TOP) would be super cool if they could justify it somehow.

GT I think did fine with its potential. It was its core concept that was flawed, but ended up giving us some really good stuff like SSJ 4 and the Dark Dragon Ball Saga.

Super is really dropping the (dragon) ball though.

edited 3rd Feb '18 9:03:52 PM by EpicBleye

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#77115: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:02:53 PM

I mean, you could probably say that about literally any character. If that's how you're defining wasted potential, I can't imagine how you'd find anything satisfying.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#77116: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:03:54 PM

GT is seriously overhated. I won't pretend it doesn't have a ton of issues but I don't find it to be nearly as bad as everyone claims.

This song needs more love.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#77117: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:04:28 PM

Yeah... there's no particular reason to pick Zarbon for that.

I should correct myself - GT and Super are wasted potential, but their potential wasn't that great to begin with. They just had the potential to be significantly less terrible than they were.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#77118: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:04:34 PM

I was cheating, I like Zarbon just fine! I couldn't think of something to say about the Freeza saga.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
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#77119: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:05:12 PM

I don't hate GT either. Honestly it's probably comparable to Super in quality, with some strikingly similar issues as well.

edited 3rd Feb '18 9:05:37 PM by EpicBleye

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#77120: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:06:04 PM

This arc didn't emphasis well enough how unstoppable U7 is.

You could easily shift the focus to other universes & portray our heroes as unstoppable monsters.

edited 3rd Feb '18 9:06:18 PM by slimcoder

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#77121: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:06:57 PM

The difference in GT and Super is a matter of personal taste. I like the ideas Super bring up better, doesn't mean it doesn't butcher those ideas hard.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#77122: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:07:28 PM

History Repeats, except this time, Super has above average videogames unlike Gt, which had terrible games during its time.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#77123: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:09:51 PM

[up]Are you counting "during its time" as the time it was airing or just the time it was the most recent Dragon Ball series because the only Super game I would consider even close to Budokai 3 and the final two Tenkaichis is FighterZ.

This song needs more love.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#77124: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:11:33 PM

And it's hard to even call those Super games.

Dragon Ball GT actually had dedicated games for it (though Final Bout is really just a GT game in-name only)

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#77125: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:13:12 PM

Things might have been a little better if the anime and manga had been more consistent with each other.

I mean, instead of doing both at the same time, start one (maybe the manga), let it run for a bit, and then do the anime, with the occasional cours and filler arcs (provided they don't contradict something that comes later). It might have tightened things a little.

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