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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#7676: Aug 10th 2014 at 9:52:26 AM

I missed the BoG airing period... fuck my inability to travel... >_<

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#7677: Aug 10th 2014 at 12:13:37 PM

[up][up]Some guy in that video's comments is bitching about "The awesome, genocidal badass warrior being a complete pussy now". Everyone is laughing at him.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#7678: Aug 10th 2014 at 12:34:13 PM

Well, even Vegeta was freaked out by Beerus, and that was before he actually recognized him.

Like I said, the old Vegeta would have arrogantly challenged him, gotten stomped, and doomed the whole planet.

This is a huge thing for him, throwing away his pride for the greater good; something he would have been incapable of previously.

Plus, (even if you call it bullshit when he starts wailing away on Beerus), he does eventually say fuck it, and kicks some destruction god ass when Bulma gets hurt, which is also a far cry away from when he previously did nothing when Bulma almost died when she got too close to Dr. Gero back in the Android arc.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#7679: Aug 10th 2014 at 1:42:36 PM

To be honest, that smackdown ended up amounting to nothing since Beerus was completely fine afterwards, and Vegeta ends up getting knocked out like a second later by a finger poke to the head.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#7680: Aug 10th 2014 at 2:03:21 PM

The important thing about that beatdown wasn't that it did nothing, but the fact that Vegeta was momentarily able to surpass Goku because of his rage over Bulma. Beerus even notes at the end of the movie that it's both Goku and Vegeta that should monitored and might be able to rival Beerus one day.

Plus, saying Vegeta did nothing against Beerus is kind of moot, when everybody jobs to him, even Goku in the end never beats him. It wasn't about beating Beerus, it was about proving he was worthy. Piccolo even notes it's more like a training exercise than an actual fight.

edited 10th Aug '14 2:05:04 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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#7681: Aug 10th 2014 at 8:21:57 PM

The numbers are in, and Battle Of Gods made $2,201,569 from 692 screenings over the course of 3 days in the US, giving Battle Of Gods a grand total of $50,001,569 over the course of it's entire theatrical run worldwide.

That's pretty damn good considering how incredibly limited the screenings for the movie was in the US. But from what I've heard from all those who went to watch the film in theaters it was sold out practically everywhere and the in-theater experience was generally awesome.

Here's hoping the UK screenings are just as good! smile

edited 10th Aug '14 8:22:27 PM by FireShadow

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7682: Aug 11th 2014 at 1:10:47 AM

That 'beatdown' was one of the worst parts of that movie though. Mindless pandering.

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#7683: Aug 11th 2014 at 3:33:07 AM

To you, maybe.

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#7684: Aug 11th 2014 at 4:16:47 AM

[up]It begiiiins,

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#7685: Aug 11th 2014 at 7:36:17 AM

[up][up][up] Meh. Didn't mind it too much, plus it got an hilarious Call-Back in the ending .

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#7686: Aug 11th 2014 at 8:45:11 AM

Big-budget Hollywood superhero movies have spoiled me.

I had to look up other anime movies on boxofficemojo and recalibrate my expectations to understand why $50 million is hailed as an amazing amount of money for an anime movie. A superhero movie making that kind of money would be considered the kind of dismal failure that would utterly kill the franchise and leave executives reluctant to even touch it for at least a decade, but 50 million is actually really good for an anime film.

edited 11th Aug '14 8:46:06 AM by TobiasDrake

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#7687: Aug 11th 2014 at 3:00:40 PM

[up][up] With it stealing another character's stick (rage boosts were always meant to be Gohan's thing, and he was the only one who got them before), contradicting Vegeta's NUMBAH WAN speech (he outright admitted that you can't just get stronger by trying to protect people) and being completely over-the-top (goes form doing absolutely nothing to smacking Beerus around and making him bleed, something Super Saiyan God didn't even do) I can't like it at all.

Besides, all it is is an extremely brief "LOOK VEGETA'S SO COOL" moment. But it really isn't. Vegeta's done much cooler things in battle, and even in this movie I was far more impressed with the lengths he'd go to protect his family by actively avoiding fighting than just plot punching continuity in the balls. I like his reaction to Bulma being struck, but I really don't like him powering up and laying a smackdown on Beerus. As funny as Goku's joke is at the end, it doesn't really make up for it.

[up] Even for anime, it's especially good because Toei are really, really cheap. Less quality, more profit!

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#7688: Aug 11th 2014 at 3:31:17 PM

I remember reading interview with the director where he stated quite openly that Vegeta is his favorite character and he doesn't like Goku very much, which would explain the thing about Vegeta as well as Goku acting OOC in the movie.

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#7689: Aug 11th 2014 at 4:35:44 PM

I still don't understand why people think Vegeta's performance in the movie is blatant favoritism, it's not. The man spent the first half-hour making himself look like a fool in front of all of his friends and family, jobbed to Beerus completely toying with him, and even after he manages to get a few good hits on Beerus, it all amounts to nothing since Beerus is completely fine afterwards before proceeding to knock Vegeta the fuck out with a finger point, with Vegeta looking on with terror; after that he's just a battery to allow Goku access to the Super Saiyan God form. Really, one badass moment for Vegeta just not override the previous 30 or so minutes of him humiliating himself in front of everybody.

edited 11th Aug '14 4:36:14 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#7690: Aug 11th 2014 at 5:14:12 PM

It's kind of a pattern in DBZ movies that Vegeta is badass for about five seconds and then does jack shit for the rest.

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#7691: Aug 11th 2014 at 5:16:11 PM

So it's really more business as usual then?

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#7692: Aug 11th 2014 at 5:53:34 PM

The movie 13 is the worst about it: Vegeta shows up just to be beat in under a minute despite the fact that most of the movie takes place at his house.

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#7693: Aug 11th 2014 at 5:57:29 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Ok? I dunno, when you put it that way, it just sounds like extreme nitpicking.

It was also already established that Vegeta would fly into a rage if he felt any of his loved ones were threatened, something he did against Cell(and with the same result). So I don't understand the notion that him going to fight Beerus for such a reason lessens his desire to protect his family.

[up] Let's be fair here, Dragon Ball in generally just isn't kind to Vegeta; for every one of his achievements it gets undone by something he does stupidly.

edited 11th Aug '14 5:58:36 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#7694: Aug 11th 2014 at 6:26:44 PM

Hell, the man's been reduced to tears at least three times over the course of the series.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#7695: Aug 11th 2014 at 8:01:52 PM

Three times?

  • Once, when Frieza shot him in the lung.
    • Second, when he was trying to become a Super Saiyan.
      • ...I don't think he cried in GT...?

edited 11th Aug '14 8:07:36 PM by FOFD

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#7696: Aug 11th 2014 at 8:05:29 PM

Getting killed by Freeza, becoming a Super Saiyan, and fighting Buu. I think that was it.

edited 11th Aug '14 8:05:46 PM by EndlessSea

but HOW?
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#7697: Aug 11th 2014 at 8:24:25 PM

What about when Trunks died in front of him?

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#7698: Aug 11th 2014 at 10:17:58 PM

He just got pissed and attacked. In the dub, he says it's for Trunks. In the Jap version, he covers it up and says something about pride.

Doesn't really matter.

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#7699: Aug 11th 2014 at 10:39:02 PM

If we're counting the movies, he also cried in Fusion Reborn.

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#7700: Aug 12th 2014 at 1:29:14 AM

It was also already established that Vegeta would fly into a rage if he felt any of his loved ones were threatened, something he did against Cell(and with the same result). So I don't understand the notion that him going to fight Beerus for such a reason lessens his desire to protect his family.

And all of those times he didn't get some bullshit power up out of it. It's not nitpicking, the whole scene flies against the series itself.

I still don't understand why people think Vegeta's performance in the movie is blatant favoritism, it's not.

The scene was written by a self-admitted Vegeta fanboy, and that contributes to that quite a bit. And comparing that to all the humiliation is a bad argument because the humiliation is actually in favour of Vegeta as well - it showed how far he'd come as a character to go through all that. And I don't have a problem with that, that was done really well, but there was absolutely no need to throw him a power up bone at the end of that when preserving through it is a much richer reward for the character.


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