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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7651: Aug 1st 2014 at 6:56:03 PM

[up][up][up][up] Actually yeah I have to agree with that. Tropes Are Not Bad and all that, it should be perfectly possible to write a Faux Action Girl well.

And FOFD your response on Faux Action Girl makes absolutely no sense... I never said Hanasia was the worst way to write any female character, but one that is actually strong.

Anyway when you replied to one of my points with just "subjective" I'm going to have to ask if you're aware that everything we both wrote in those posts is 100% subjectivity?

edited 1st Aug '14 6:56:20 PM by Saiga

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#7652: Aug 1st 2014 at 8:04:28 PM

And FOFD your response on Faux Action Girl makes absolutely no sense... I never said Hanasia was the worst way to write any female character, but one that is actually strong.

You didn't. Son of Sharknado did, agreeing with what you initially said about Hanasia.

I initially linked to Faux Action Girl because that, to me, would be a poorly-written strong, independent woman, as Sharknado put it. Nikkolas then added to it, and I admitted that while my use of the trope may have been wrong in this context, I still disagreed with calling Hanasia a poorly-written strong, independent woman based solely on what you'd originally said.

Anyway when you replied to one of my points with just "subjective" I'm going to have to ask if you're aware that everything we both wrote in those posts is 100% subjectivity?

Well what I replied to was basically: Hanasia is a bad character because she takes up the spotlight in that special, is a grating character, and her purpose is pure self-indulgence. How should I reply to that? I could say she doesn't take up too much spotlight, isn't grating, and isn't self-indulgent - count page numbers, argue definitions of self-indulgence and what makes a character grating. Wouldn't get us anywhere. True, I could've ignored the point entirely.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#7653: Aug 1st 2014 at 8:24:36 PM

No, that's not what I was talking about. To me, a poorly written strong female character is when there is nothing to them BUT the fact that they are strong. And that they cannot emote or be vulnerable or likeable, because they are supposed to be strong.

My various fanfics.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#7654: Aug 1st 2014 at 9:52:53 PM

Here was the chain of comments I followed:

So would I but I still prefer Gine to Hanasia because there's more to each character to that and everything else about Hanasia sucks hard. Actually, her kick-ass-ness also sucks hard with her because it's too much. Super special strongest Saiyan who also fights outside her weight class? bleh.

The textbook definition of how to poorly write a strong, independent woman.

This conversation is making me prefer Gine to Hanasia despite having never read anything with either character in it.

So if this is all one large a-do about nothing, and we all agree to have different perceptions on a character, and we all agree to disown Gine, I will be satisfied to shut the hell up.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#7656: Aug 2nd 2014 at 12:30:12 PM

I still just plain don't get DBH. I mean, what is it. It's like a... AR trading card game, right?

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#7657: Aug 2nd 2014 at 12:37:07 PM

A tag-team turned-based trading-card arcade game with hundreds upon hundreds of characters and transformations created by Dimps. (Budokai, Xenoverse, Street Fighter 4, Sonic handhelds, etc...)

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#7658: Aug 2nd 2014 at 12:48:32 PM

[up][up][up]I think I threw up a little.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#7659: Aug 2nd 2014 at 12:57:01 PM

It took them less than fifteen minutes to create that Broly model, didn't it?

"Splash some red on his arms and back, oh and make his hair black. Aaaaand.... done!"

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7661: Aug 2nd 2014 at 1:15:59 PM

[up]x6 ...What

But Takao Koyama must be getting off immensely from that monstrosity.

In more encouraging Dragon Ball video game related news... this.

The more I hear about Xenoverse more excited I get. But I can't get too excited or I may ending resenting the game if isn't perfect. That was the case with Burst Limit and I don't want a repeat of that.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#7662: Aug 2nd 2014 at 3:06:11 PM

They openly acknowledged that Battle of Z sucked? That's reassuring.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Kaitenhammer Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7664: Aug 2nd 2014 at 4:36:52 PM

The majority of people play fighting games on console anyway. Its been that case for Street Fighter, Tekken, Mortal Kombat... you name em.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#7665: Aug 2nd 2014 at 10:19:56 PM

[up][up]...I can't tell if the Sarcasm Mode pothole was referring to the sarcastic "great" or saying that the sarcastic "great" was in fact said sarcastically/ironically/something.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#7666: Aug 3rd 2014 at 1:24:09 PM

[up]"I am sad/annoyed/bothered/troubled they are not doing a PC version."

There you go.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#7667: Aug 4th 2014 at 3:46:15 PM

I for one welcome our new Broly overlords.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7668: Aug 4th 2014 at 6:42:28 PM

Broly had a bigger chest than most anime women.

He's the man.

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7669: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:43:56 PM

IGN did a review of Battle Of Gods and gave it a 7.5 out of 10:

  • Pros
    • Incredible fight scenes
    • Excellent voice acting
    • Gorgeous animation

  • Cons
    • Lack of iconic techniques
    • Too much filler
    • Underwhelming conclusion

The review as whole is pretty well written and balanced but I gotta call bullshit on the whole issue with the "Lack of iconic techniques" and "Underwhelming conclusion" cons against the movie. The whole point of the ending of Battle Of Gods wasn't to underwhelm anyone, it was essentially a Sequel Hook and criticizing the movie for not featuring all of the iconic Dragon Ball techniques is just ridiculous. 90% percent of the DBZ movies end with a Kamehameha or a Spirit Bomb.

I can agree with the argument against the film having too much filler, but this is Dragon Ball Z were talking about, the show that made filler an art form. grin

In my opinion Battle Of Gods was a refreshing change of tone and pace to what were usually severed when it come to Dragon Ball Z. It was more lighthearted, silly and campy when it wanted to be and embraced it but also had really great fight scenes. It reminded me more of the oldschool Dragon Ball, which I feel is superior in many departments to its counterpart Dragon Ball Z. But that's like saying I prefer The Dark Knight over the The Dark Knight Rises, both are very enjoyable for what they provide however one has a few more notable merits over the other.

I'd give Battle Of Gods two thumbs up. And can't I wait for it's sequel! [tup][tup]

edited 5th Aug '14 6:56:08 PM by FireShadow

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#7670: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:53:38 PM

[up]*ignorant etc. etc.*

edited 5th Aug '14 6:53:57 PM by nomuru2d

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7671: Aug 6th 2014 at 5:17:19 PM

So Vegeta in the Cell Saga, after he's joined the good guys, has a higher kill count than either Android 17 or 18, the actual bad guys.

That poor guy driving the truck full of paperclips...

Blackyakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#7672: Aug 6th 2014 at 5:54:24 PM

Battle of Gods was pretty godlike

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#7673: Aug 6th 2014 at 6:44:15 PM

[up][up]From Abridged:

Trunks: The androids are humanity's greatest threat!
*Smash Cut*
Vegeta: (to 18) I will kill as many people as I have to as long as you're one of them!

edited 6th Aug '14 6:44:58 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#7674: Aug 6th 2014 at 8:41:51 PM

I find slightly amusing how Vegeta has slowly been becoming the Butt-Monkey of the series.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#7675: Aug 6th 2014 at 8:58:50 PM

[up]

he deserves it a little for the shit he's pulled. That being said:

Funny thing is, knowing the context of this scene, it's also kinda Crowning Moment Of Awesome for him. He's gone from someone who was so hell bent on being the strongest, he endangered the Earth multiple times, to throwing away his pride (the only thing he has left of his Saiyan heritage) to save the whole Earth.....

Plus, it's pretty fucking funny. At least to me.evil grin

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