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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74801: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:25:17 PM

[up][up] If that were any lower sodium it'd be freshwater.

[up] oh shit I spoke too soon

edited 6th Jan '18 11:25:39 PM by Saiga

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#74802: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:27:18 PM

Jiren still needs to grow a personality so I'm fine with him getting a few more episodes but Toppo and especially Dyspo have been dragged out far too long.

edited 6th Jan '18 11:27:56 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74803: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:29:27 PM

Super follows the old-school shonen anime format right?

I'm starting to think that's not a good idea.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74804: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:31:03 PM

[up][up] It looks like he's slowly starting to open up in this episode. With how much time was spent on his portion vs how little he actually said, they are going to really need to work hard in the next episodes to develop him.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#74805: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:39:50 PM

I'm actually feeling pretty good about Jiren getting a personality now.

He has nowhere left to run or hide.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74806: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:42:38 PM

But his specialty has always been to no-sell... character development is no exception!

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#74807: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:44:13 PM

I don't mind Dyspo and Toppo sticking around. I like it when Dragon Ball does the ensemble boss fight rather than just one guy.

edited 6th Jan '18 11:44:25 PM by Hobgoblin

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74808: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:45:59 PM

[up][up][up] My worry is that he will get a different characterization compared to the manga.

Cause Super-Jiren is Best-Jiren. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74809: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:46:24 PM

[up][up] I'm more curious about what will happen to Dyspo and Toppo than Jiren tbh

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#74810: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:50:54 PM

"Nani?! E-even with the spotlight shining down on him with such intensity, Jiren stays flat and boring?!"

"It seems Jiren's power is stronger than even character focus!"

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74811: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:51:44 PM

My very first theory for Jiren's strength was that he converted his entire personality into ki

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#74812: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:52:20 PM

Jiren is resisting revealing too much about himself because he studied shonen tropes extensively and knows that revealing too much about yourself is a guaranteed way to be defeated by the main character at the last moment. tongue

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#74813: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:14:44 AM

No, he's just setting himself up for a flashback right before his defeat.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74814: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:24:19 AM

I like Dyspo and Toppo sticking around. Dyspo really needed something to justify him being the 3rd strongest Pride Trooper aside from his fight with Hit. Toppo also has that whole "Hakaishin-in-training" thing that supposedly is going to get a badass payoff in three episodes.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74815: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:25:56 AM

wait that's still three episodes away?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74816: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:31:06 AM

We're on 122. Next episode is 123, and it's the one where Vegeta gets Blue 2 and Toppo probably eliminates 17 because Gohan hesitates. The one after that is 124, where Freeza offers to betray U7 and Gohan helps Freeza against Dyspo. 125 is the one where Hakaishin Toppo descends. 126 is probably Ultra Instinct Vegeta.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74817: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:33:23 AM

is there any particular reason you expect UI Vegeta? That would be terrible idea so soon after creating a new form for him.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74818: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:33:54 AM

[up][up] I feel like all this could be condensed into fewer episodes.

I mean these plots don't sound like they should each individually take entire episodes.

edited 7th Jan '18 12:35:44 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74820: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:34:44 AM

Today's plot definitely shouldn't have. You could cut out basically everything but the intial pairing off and Dyspo's moment.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74821: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:37:24 AM

The title is "Surpass Even a God (probably Toppo)! Vegeta's Life-Risking Blow!" Now, I dunno about you, but when I hear stuff about surpassing the gods and Vegeta risking his life, I think Ultra Instinct. Blue 2 is just to give Vegeta something to fight alongside Kaioken Blue Goku.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74822: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:40:10 AM

Its amazing how despite being in a situation that should call for nonstop action everything is done at a snail's pace.

Its so weird.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#74823: Jan 7th 2018 at 2:57:10 AM

Yea, this episode is nowhere as bad as you guys are making it out to be.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74824: Jan 7th 2018 at 3:08:15 AM

This episode is great, it builds up tension for the final battle very well and it makes for a good starting point for said final battle.

Unrelated, but god I want Funimation to get one of Superman's signature voice actors for Jiren so bad.

edited 7th Jan '18 3:25:39 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#74825: Jan 7th 2018 at 3:32:28 AM

That episode was The first 10 minutes I've watched have been pretty good.

Except for Goku fighting evenly with Jiren at the start, but eh. "My hands are tinglin." Jesus christ Goku. You were getting thrashed last time you fought this guy.

I'm calling it now. Jiren seeks what lies beyond strength? His wish is going to be for a girlfriend, or something similarly petty in the grand scheme of things. This stoic personality of his is a red herring.

Freeza not giving a damn and keeping his back turned made me laugh. Liked how they initially just showed Freeza's hand when he fired those Death Beams Dypso.

Whoever is animating this episode knows how to increase the tension. Goku's tattered clothes in the breeze, Vegeta's gloves and Toppo's beard shaking in the wind. Not sure why Goku and Jiren slowly advanced toward each other again but eh. Jiren doing it makes sense at least because he's confident nobody in Universe 7 can put him down.

Kind of disappointed Vegeta won't be fighting Toppo. That would have been a fine sub-boss for Vegeta to take out.

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