I primarily felt "eh" because of Arc Fatigue, as at that point I felt the arc had going through about three or four "nyahaha! I'm not defeated after all!"s too many and the consequences of Black / Zamasu's actions started to feel less worthwhile.
The way they handled Mai and Trunks' conclusion kind of clinched it, too.
edited 6th Jan '18 1:38:55 PM by KnownUnknown
The human survivors provided absolutely nothing but 'eh' in their appearances.
Even if they hadn't died in the end, I'd still feel nothing. They're nobodies who just waste screentime.
The survivors could make sense if, instead of ever approaching Black, they were just a network of people who constantly scavenged supplies/food to make sure Trunks was as well supported as he could be. Even then, we just don't need to spend time on them. It's a complete waste.
I mean, the main problem is that Black's motivation for keeping such a small pocket alive is only in the manga (he needs to fight F. Trunks in order to break in the new body). He was basically not trying to kill them all at once.
edited 6th Jan '18 1:52:17 PM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
I thought that too, but I believe it was because he wanted to avoid harming nature. So if he just went around blasting large swaths of the earth to kill the small handful still left, he'd be doing just that.
That's why he tended to go for slowly hunting them down more individually...I think. That's probably bullshit.
I can get that. I mean, the idea of people trying to fight Black at first (with entire armies and the like) isn't an illogical thing, but after they inevitably fail, there really should have been nothing but people hiding in the dankest corners of the earth.
One Strip! One Strip!You know, I've been rereading the Red Ribbon army arc, and I've noticed that the major powerup of the arc (Korrin's training) is introduced before the guy to whom Goku will have to train to overcome is, and I think that's pretty cool. I think Dragonball should try that more often, it makes things feel more natural. Like, not all the time (mainly because it's a lot harder to plot it so it all clicks), but it's an interesting change.
edited 6th Jan '18 2:34:29 PM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"There's actual no real reason to believe isn't the case either. Black/Zamasu is probably tied with Freeza in terms of how evil they are. Two of them just happens to be much more engaging than the other.
Also regarding the human during Black/F-Trunks arc, as stupid as it is to see them even fighting Black, F-Trunks needs something to fight for.
What, like his mom?
I suppose him just generally fighting for the future he'd already worked so hard to save, as well as for Mai (when she turned out to be alive) can work.
Honestly, I don't think these people need to be cut, just executed better.
edited 6th Jan '18 3:09:15 PM by HandsomeRob
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The people of his future still exist even if we don't see them and even if they're strangers to Trunks. Is he really so callous to go "you know, I don't actually know every person on this planet that I previously saved. Black can just kill all of them, and then me" ?
Also cut Mai as well. Another waste of time and the past/future interactions are cringeworthy by involving her.
...you know what? Since I hate everything about the Mai / Trunks shit ship no, I was right the first time, it's shit.
Anyway, I'm gonna now agree with everything you said, just so that we can pretend Trunks and Mai never happened anywhere. May in burn in eternity, writhing in pain for all time, never forgiven for existing.
So yeah. You made your point.
One Strip! One Strip!I think a lot of the problems with the Future Trunks arc would be fixed by just not having his timeline die at the end.
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"Present-Mai yes, Future-Mai is a different story. Although, I put more my own Head Canon on that & say that's Mai's child instead.
That was biggest Ass Pull I've seen yet. It so much worse than Naruto's & Bleach has ever done.
edited 6th Jan '18 3:33:29 PM by agent-trunks
Yeah that's definitely true. I don't exactly know how you'd end it.
As pointless as that ending was, it served some purpose in paying off the Zen-Oh button, bringing him a friend, and why you don't mess around with him. But I don't think the Zen-Oh button was a good idea to begin with, and it may have been better not to reveal how dangerous he is until the current arc.
Actually, depending on how the Zen-Oh situation is resolved, it may not have even been a good idea to have him be so dangerous. Because right now I'm not confident that they plan on really dealing with that.
edit: no, Future Mai is the one I'd cut. It's so ridiculous and unneeded, and it heavily overshadows Future Bulma's own importance to Trunks which is just terrible.
edited 6th Jan '18 3:37:57 PM by Saiga
Trunks staying in the main timeline would at least give SOME point to his timeline being destroyed and avoid the really awkward Replacement Goldfish timeline that shows how little anything really matters to him.
That's absurd, we already been told Zeno could wipe the multiverse & Beerus's fear just strengthen that evidence. We didn't need to be shown how powerful Zeno at the expense of F-Trunks's timeline. Especially since we already have the TOP to show that.
The Zeno button is about as literal as a Deus ex Machina can get & this even factoring a franchise that base on a nearly all-granting wishing orbs.
As subjective it might be, that's not true. That arc drag longer than it did in the manga & the only good thing they did better was there's only 2 time travels. Oh wait, it's not a time machine, it's actually dimension traveler machine but we're still call it a time machine anyways.
edited 6th Jan '18 3:53:03 PM by agent-trunks

A universe free of ningen.
And of himself, but hey, take what you can get.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!