TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Dragon Ball

Go To

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74526: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:02:32 PM

I don't like how the anime made Buff Cell look super fat. In the manga, he looks basically the same both times he used it, aside from his chin. The anime kept the normal design for the first time, but it expanded his upper body to grotesque levels in the second time.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74527: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:04:38 PM

I mean his bigger form is supposed to be him embarrassing himself.

So as long as he still looks like a dumbass there doing good.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74528: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:10:34 PM

[up][up] Manga Cell gets much bigger in his second usage of the form. He doesn't look fat, but he's overall bigger (and taller) by a noticeable amount. Whereas he didn't get any taller when showing off the form to Trunks.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#74529: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:33:08 PM

Power-Weighted is treated like Super-Perfect in game I admit, which is why I never thought about it until now and realized that it's technically not Super-Perfect. It wasn't until Budokai 3 that added his Super Perfect form.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#74530: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:40:11 PM

I always wondered.

Is it Super Perfect Cell?

Or is it Super Perfect Cell?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#74531: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:44:52 PM

[up] It has to be the latter, that's the only way it can make even a modicum of sense... I think.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#74532: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:51:05 PM

[up][up]

I'm guessing the reason he wasn't added before hand is that he doesn't really look any different.

I mean, he's stronger, but he looks the same as his normal perfect self. In fact, since he could still grow stronger, you could argue he wasn't even actually perfect.

One Strip! One Strip!
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#74533: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:52:04 PM

It's Super Perfect Cell, actually.

edited 5th Jan '18 6:38:22 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#74534: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:54:55 PM

It's bullshit, that's what it is.

If he was so perfect, how come he got rekt?

False advertising from beginning to end. That's all I got to say about our man Cell.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74535: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:56:27 PM

He has limitless evolution though.

Dude is a Saiyan & a Frieza.

The potential to become the strongest being in all of creation...... next to Zeno.

edited 5th Jan '18 5:56:36 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74536: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:57:49 PM

@Saiga You're right, he does get taller. I was saying that his manga Buff forms, here and here, are a lot closer to each other than his anime Buff forms, here and here, are to each other. Both manga ones are also a lot closer to the first anime one than they are to whatever is happening in the second anime buff form.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74537: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:02:52 PM

Well, the anime has it worst during the tranformation sequence. It doesn't look quite that bad in the actual fight.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#74538: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:06:22 PM

Yea, it looks a lot better in motion than the initial transformation

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#74539: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:08:38 PM

So after this is over and he new pecking order is presumably established, I wonder what's going to be the next threat? Can't really have Beerus as a bench mark after this.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#74540: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:11:36 PM

I assume people from the universes with high mortal levels that are uber strong

then the angels > grand priest

then. uh. the dark dragon balls again?

and then the pilaf gang

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74541: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:12:45 PM

Mr. Popo decides its time to prove who's really at the top of the pecking order. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#74542: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:13:44 PM

I wish it would end with Beerus mastering UI and have a battle with Goku, for a Bookend.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#74543: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:15:57 PM

Would have been funny if the God who beat him in that arms-wrestling contest was the rat. tongue

In the manga, they confirm it was Quitela who beated Beerus in that arm-wrestling match, but that only suggest he's physically stronger. Beerus seems pretty confident in his hand to hand combat skills. Considering he's also took other 11 Go D it might not be hyperbole at all even it was for a short bit. Of course the anime can just be a dick & say otherwise because god forbid that manga & anime have some kind of god forsaken consistency.

He did, and Beerus said he only lost to the guy once in an armwrestling match. Still, I think we're supposed to be taking Jiren as stronger than Beerus as a fact.

edit: Oh wait, that was when Beerus mentioned the arm wrestling match. But you're right, the way Whis says it, he's clearly calling Belmoud stronger so yeah, Jiren is stronger than Beerus. And if Beerus was still stronger after all this time I'd be annoyed

There has been no confirmation that Jiren is stronger than Beerus. While there is implication & suggestion absolutely nothing has been confirm about Jiren being stronger. The only confirmation of which Go D Jiren is stronger than is Belmond. Not that it's hard to imagine Jiren being stronger than the majority of Go D anyways.

Regarding Shonen villains who get weakened before the final battle, I know it happens to Father from FMA.

I would also say Bleach, but the execution left a lot to desire. *sigh*

He has limitless evolution though.

Dude is a Saiyan & a Frieza.

The potential to become the strongest being in all of creation...... next to Zeno.

Theoretically speaking (& I do just mean theoretically) there's no real reason to believe Cell couldn't be that stupidly strong.

I assume people from the universes with high mortal levels that are uber strong

then the angels > grand priest

then. uh. the dark dragon balls again?

and then the pilaf gang

It doesn't, the only universe that correspond with is U11 & even then that's mostly because of last 3 contestants.

edited 5th Jan '18 6:20:46 PM by agent-trunks

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74544: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:18:46 PM

So was Teen Gohand's hair suppose to sort of look like Kakarrot's?

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#74545: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:21:12 PM

I mean, Aizen technically got stronger in pure terms, he just decided not to use his unbeatable illusion powers because... uh... because they're unbeatable. They're hax, they're bullshit, be honest, Ichigo doesn't have the brains to beat them even if they were beatable.

edited 5th Jan '18 6:21:43 PM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#74546: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:21:48 PM

So was Teen Gohand's hair suppose to sort of look like Kakarrot's?

Why not? He's the son of that low class clown warrior.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#74547: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:23:24 PM

Besides, he was in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for a year. Of course Goku would have to do his hair at some point.

The legend has returned.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#74548: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:24:18 PM

[up][up][up]Aizen could never use his sword on Ichigo. Ichigo never saw him release it, and for the vast majority of time Aizen would never have needed his sword to beat Ichigo. And in their final confrontation Aizen's sword's abilities wouldn't have been of any help. Also, Ichigo isn't an idiot, so I don't know what you think you're saying.

edited 5th Jan '18 6:26:23 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74549: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:25:33 PM

Aizen got way stronger, and mentioned that he was letting his guard down so the Hogyoku could make him stronger to achieve his actual goal.

I don't know whether it was Ichigo catching his blade or just having too much reiatsu (definitely could have been conveyed better) but illusions definitely weren't an option later in the fight.

[up] I wouldn't expect Sigil to be reasonable on this one, FYI.

So was Teen Gohand's hair suppose to sort of look like Kakarrot's?

Kid Gohan's hair would look like Gohan's from time to time as well, like that Saiyan arc manga cover that shows them as parallels of each other.

I really wish Boo arc Gohan's hair had gone with the jacket style here, that looks sweet and would have given him a more consistent hairstyle.

edited 5th Jan '18 6:28:08 PM by Saiga

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#74550: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:28:29 PM

I'm not sure how too much spirit energy would be a factor when these same powers work on Ywatch a couple arcs later...

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

Total posts: 130,800
Top