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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#74076: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:53:22 PM

Cats aren't malicious, they're way too aloof and apathetic for that.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#74077: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:58:42 PM

I'm still baffled at the "there are only 28 planets in the universe with life on it" claim

Like. No. That makes less than zero sense. Do these writers have any idea how big a galaxy is, much less a universe?

I also feel it contradicts just how much Frieza has had to conquer. Not much of a conquerer if there is mostly rocks.

Anyway I don't think Zen'Oh needs to die so much as he needs to be taught morality. It'll be interesting to see how he is handled.

Also it's been implied for a long while now that the Angels are largely detached from their universes, only being watchers over the gods of destruction.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#74078: Jan 2nd 2018 at 12:04:31 AM

You'd think the Grand Priest would try to reign in Zeno...just a little bit? Or does the Grand Priest literally not care about mortal life at all. Not even the slightest bit of empathy.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#74079: Jan 2nd 2018 at 12:06:50 AM

El Grande Padre's plans are too powerful to comprehend.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#74080: Jan 2nd 2018 at 12:07:53 AM

I always imagined they were going for Punch-Clock Hero sort of deal where they only 'care' so long as it's their job to

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74081: Jan 2nd 2018 at 12:11:19 AM

Fusion multiplyer never made sense. Trunks and Goten are both far weaker than their fathers yet together they were capable of beating a far stronger Buu than the one who trashed Goku and Vegeta.

That's not the issue here. The issue is that we've got a previous example of potara fusion which Kafla is totally inconsistent with.

Goku said that Vegetto wouldn't be enough for Beerus, and that God was something beyond his expectations. And then Kafla beats up God Goku in base. Is Base Kafla stronger than Super Vegetto? Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto? Despite her components being weaker than Goku/Vegeta?

Yes, Super's power logic is all over the place, but this is a very extreme case that is very obvious because of the easy comparisons made.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74082: Jan 2nd 2018 at 12:48:43 AM

Anyway I don't think Zen'Oh needs to die so much as he needs to be taught morality.

Why would a god need to be taught morality?

Let em be completely apathetic or not...

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#74083: Jan 2nd 2018 at 12:50:50 AM

I feel like if Zenoh could learn maturity it would have happened long before this. At best Grand Padre is going to be like 'Well, that was a fun tournament, too bad you'll never get to see another one since you broke all your toys' and Zenoh learns the tiniest bit of restraint.

I don't trust a being like that. At the very least the SDB would need to be used to put some severe limits on when and how he can use his powers.

edited 2nd Jan '18 12:51:34 AM by Arha

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74084: Jan 2nd 2018 at 12:52:55 AM

Considering all the Angel's have time rewind El Padre Grande rewinding the entire tournament back to everyone still being alive would be either the greatest brick joke/act of foreshadowing or cop out.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#74085: Jan 2nd 2018 at 1:43:42 AM

Shitty cop out. But, I wouldn't be....too surprised if it happened. I'm more expecting them to just wish everyone back with the Super Dragon Balls though.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#74086: Jan 2nd 2018 at 1:47:43 AM

I'm actually half-expecting that with the justification for lying about it being the threat of universe erasure would inspire everyone to fight their hardest.

edited 2nd Jan '18 1:48:21 AM by LordVatek

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#74087: Jan 2nd 2018 at 1:51:07 AM

Grand Padre reset would be the worse of the two options btw. Everyone involved would lose any development they got.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74088: Jan 2nd 2018 at 1:53:58 AM

If they went that way they'd just ignore how it previously worked and have everyone retain their memories

Like how Zen-Oh's erasure changed for this arc

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74089: Jan 2nd 2018 at 2:00:26 AM

Though it be rather sweet to see everyone's relieved reactions after being brought back to life especially with how Black's arc ended.

Like call me sappy but it warm my heart if I saw something like say the wolf bros dancing in a group hug or tears of joy from Gowasu & Obuni.

edited 2nd Jan '18 2:00:46 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#74090: Jan 2nd 2018 at 2:04:44 AM

Gowasu should never trust the elephant to do anything ever again.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#74091: Jan 2nd 2018 at 2:06:47 AM

[up][up] I wouldn't say his erasure changed. The extent of the application has but I don't see why you'd say the power has.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#74092: Jan 2nd 2018 at 2:12:52 AM

The Zen'o are such nightmare fuel station attendants I think the multiverse would actually be safer if Frieza becomes ruler of the multiverse. Partly because even if he learns Ultra Instinct and gets God Ki, likely surpassing Beerus and maybe even Whis because of his insane potential, he would still be less of a Story-Breaker Power and less likely to destroy the multiverse on a whim

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#74093: Jan 2nd 2018 at 2:13:54 AM

Frieza is just the lesser of the two evils.

"Mai waifu."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#74094: Jan 2nd 2018 at 2:27:47 AM

[up][up][up] Because they haven't addressed it. It's just having a different outcome now.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74095: Jan 2nd 2018 at 4:32:59 AM

Because it's just expected to be different now...

So no one can escape...

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#74096: Jan 2nd 2018 at 4:54:44 AM

Just a reminder, ever since the series started, a good chunk of planets have been destroyed:

  • Planet Sadala
  • Planet Vegeta
  • Planet Namek
  • The 8 1/2 planets Beerus destroyed looking for Goku
  • The Universe 7 planets Champa destroyed looking for the Super DB's

I'm pretty sure there used to be much more planets with thriving life before Goku was born.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#74097: Jan 2nd 2018 at 6:56:40 AM

That's not the issue here. The issue is that we've got a previous example of potara fusion which Kafla is totally inconsistent with.

Goku said that Vegetto wouldn't be enough for Beerus, and that God was something beyond his expectations. And then Kafla beats up God Goku in base. Is Base Kafla stronger than Super Vegetto? Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto? Despite her components being weaker than Goku/Vegeta?

Yes, Super's power logic is all over the place, but this is a very extreme case that is very obvious because of the easy comparisons made.

The problem here is that you're assuming the power differences between Super Saiyan Goku and God Goku are the same now as they were in Battle of Gods, even though Goku's normal state jumped a whole bunch in strength after experiencing God form. The return of Super Saiyan God in this arc has received no explanation whatsoever, so making assumptions about how it works and saying things do or don't make sense based on that should be avoided.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#74098: Jan 2nd 2018 at 7:27:46 AM

Moth 13, don't try and defend Super's power consistency. It's nonexistant. You say you don't care about it, and neither do I, but don't try and defend it... either it doesn't matter or it does, and it has a whole bunch of problems of which Kefla is but the tip of the iceberg.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#74100: Jan 2nd 2018 at 9:35:18 AM

You'd think the Grand Priest would try to reign in Zeno...just a little bit?

Why? It's not his neck on the line, nor his kids. We've already seen that most of the angels are just "Eh." about their universes getting erased. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them set up a betting pool on which universe makes it to the end.


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