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Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#74026: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:33:35 PM

Do you people really not get how pathetic you sound? Seriously she already lost. Goku is stronger than her. You can let it go. The strong female can’t hurt you anymore. Your Dragonball is safe from the womens.

Caulifla did not ruin Dragonball. Kale did not ruin Dragonball. Kefla did not ruin Dragonball. They did literally NOTHING that a male character hadn’t already done in Z.

edited 1st Jan '18 9:35:16 PM by Larfleeze

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74027: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:38:16 PM

Oh yes call out the sexism card on me.

That's nice of ya.

What I can't overreact for the fun of it?

edited 1st Jan '18 9:39:06 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#74028: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:38:20 PM

Even ignoring the strawman Larfleeze is arguing against, I will say that I don't really get wanting characters like Kale or Caulifla to be humiliated or whatever. There not the kind of annoying or badly written character where I get any joy out of it.

That's the kind of thing I would say is better reserved for characters like Frieza.

edited 1st Jan '18 9:39:08 PM by LSBK

Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#74029: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:40:31 PM

Fusion multiplyer never made sense. Trunks and Goten are both far weaker than their fathers yet together they were capable of beating a far stronger Buu than the one who trashed Goku and Vegeta.

Freeza is easily killed by Trunks easily beaten by 18 who is easily beaten by Imperfect Cell who is easily beaten by Vegeta who is easily beaten by Perfect Cell. Then toss on the Buu saga and all the respective power ups and boosts and Freeza should be far outclassed. Yet 4 months of training and he’s God level. Just like that.

Roshi retired from fighting seriously in the ORIGINAL Dragonball yet now he’s fighting amongst the strongest in all the universes because he did some off screen training apparently.

17 is God level because he ranged the shit out of his park.

Super’s treatment of power levels is BS. Caulifla/Kale/Kefla aren’t anymore guilty than anyone else.

edited 1st Jan '18 9:48:36 PM by Larfleeze

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74030: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:41:56 PM

[up] Though Buu did kick their ass in the first encounter.

They were only stronger then him after training in Hypertonic Lion Tamer.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#74031: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:42:24 PM

That's not fusion not making sense, it's fusion doing what it's supposed to do. And the gap in strength has only been getting wider and makes less sense compared to what was established.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74032: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:43:20 PM

I think I will enjoy next week's episode, considering Freeza's fighting Dyspo and it seems like he's losing. Freeza's status as a Card-Carrying Villain in this tournament has been delicious and fun, but it has to end sometime, and I'd prefer it end with Freeza getting his face punched in.

GOI god of insanity from everywhere/nowhere Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
god of insanity
#74033: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:53:24 PM

Something from the wiki that it seems that it is the weaker of the two fusers with potara is the one that is more influential on the personality and looks since the only possible two exceptions are when a supreme Kai is involved and even then it makes sense why they would be the ones with more influence over personality since it is them who makes it permanent.

The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success. Insanity runs in my family. It practically gallops.
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#74034: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:54:55 PM

The thing is, Kale and Caulifa aren't just inconsistent with power levels (since damn near everyone in Super is that) they're also immensely rubbish characters personality wise, especially Kale.

edited 1st Jan '18 9:55:29 PM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#74035: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:01:27 PM

Preview images are out for this Saturday's episode:

     Mild Spoilers Ahead: 

Image: A general standoff pose between Base!Goku and Jiren (who's sporting a weightlifter build for some reason. What happened to "not too fat?" tongue).

Image: Peanut gallery shot featuring Krillin, Tenshinhan, Shin, and...Universe 5 G.O.D's Arack? And Universe 3 Angel's Kampari? I guess Vados isn't the only one deciding to keep Universe 7 company.

Image: Over the shoulder shot of SSJ Blue!Vegeta lunging towards Jiren to strike.

Image: Android 17 and Gohan looking towards the camera (maybe Toppo?) in gaping amazement.

Image: Battle Damaged Base!Vegeta who doesn't look deterred, but mildly annoyed.

Image: Close up shot of Gohan charging a Kamehameha wave.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74036: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:03:09 PM

[up][up]I can say with confidence that the majority of the fanbase disagrees with you that their personalities are bad, myself among them.

edited 1st Jan '18 10:07:14 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74037: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:04:12 PM

My issue with them lies primarily in how they were introduced within the less than 2 days training session.

[up][up] Goddamn is that art amazing. [tup] [awesome]

edited 1st Jan '18 10:04:52 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#74038: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:04:29 PM

Personality wise they're just whatever to me. I'd agree with what Arha said though about their relationship actually being toxic.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#74039: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:07:42 PM

Oh, this'll be a glorious and beautiful jobbing.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74040: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:08:30 PM

Guessing the remaining spectators are going to split up and support either U7 or U11. Hope we can actually hear Cukatail say something to confirm her gender.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74041: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:09:13 PM

[up][up][up] A gang leader & general thug taking charge of an impressionable young woman with severe self-esteem issues with very real anger issues.

........ Yeah that sounds pretty toxic actually.

edited 1st Jan '18 10:09:24 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#74042: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:10:07 PM

Um how is this jobbing at all? Jiren already took a brand new level of power from Goku effortlessly. Vegeta fighting isn't meant to hype up Jiren.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#74043: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:12:43 PM

I'm honestly not sure why Vegeta vs. Jiren is being hyped up at all. We already know Jiren will win and he has already fought Goku.

It kind of just feels like they're getting him out of the way so Goku can come back in.

edited 1st Jan '18 10:13:10 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#74044: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:14:26 PM

Because if there's anyone who can make a loss look good, its Vegeta.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#74045: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:14:57 PM

Isn't he supposed to just be holding the line basically.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#74046: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:15:13 PM

I really have to wonder what Toriyama's endgame is when it comes to transformations. Why does he feel it's necessary to add so many? Is it to change up the character's appearance frequently? Is it to sell more merchandise?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74047: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:15:24 PM

[up][up] Yes.

So there is actual reason to Vegeta fighting Jiren now.

[up] I'd assume that's the right answer.

edited 1st Jan '18 10:15:49 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#74048: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:17:20 PM

Which one?

Also, why is the fish god sitting with Universe 7?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#74049: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:17:32 PM

Transformations are for when the characters need a sudden and drastic increase in power because the Power Creep has left them behind or the Arc Villain is too powerful to defeat as they are. They're also pretty fun to design.

[up]I theorized above that the remaining spectators are going to be taking sides in the U7 vs U11 battle.

edited 1st Jan '18 10:19:06 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#74050: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:18:18 PM

[up][up] Yes to all of them.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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