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The UI he used against Jiren affected both offense & defense.
Piccolo outright states that his punches were growing stronger along with his dodging.
The version with Kefla was a more heavily weakened state with only his dodging being empowered.
edited 1st Jan '18 8:01:05 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I know right? I mean, Toriyama came up with the earrings because he didn't just want to rehash the dance since Toei did the Fusion movie first, but then he essentially makes Earring fusion the same as Dance fusion. What the hell was the point? Especially when there was already a way for them to reverse the fusion via the Dragonballs.
edited 1st Jan '18 8:03:31 PM by HandsomeRob
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So he could bring back Vegetto without having to add any extra details about defusing them.
edited 1st Jan '18 8:08:16 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.Dance Fusion is thirty minutes shorter, unless you're using any power-up over Super Saiyan 2, in which case it's five minutes.
I still feel like Kefla should have burned out fast like Vegito even if she was only Super Saiyan 2, though, given that she was seemingly around the same power area. But if it was only a two minute fight, I guess that makes sense.
Lousy Namek time.
Well Vegito's power was Super Saiyan Blue Squared or something ridiculous. Wasn't he said to be stronger than Beerus in the manga?
Piccolo outright states that his punches were growing stronger along with his dodging.
The version with Kefla was a more heavily weakened state with only his dodging being empowered.
I dunno, given that both versions are called the sign/omen of ultra instinct, I don't think it's meant to be the fully mastered version in its first appearance.
Anyway, my point is that I loved the fight because even though Goku has the ability of infinite dodging, it still managed to make me feel like Goku was in danger, that he could lose. Obviously he won't because he's the protagonist, but having a feeling of genuine tension is very important.
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I mean he isn't already?
Though I really want Vegeta to transition to being a daddy's girl parent.
Even if it wasn't fully mastered the fact he was able to match Jiren punch for punch means its better than the one he used against Kefla.
edited 1st Jan '18 8:34:24 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Goku's offense in Ultra Instinct is greater than in KKx20, but it's still lower than his speed in Ultra Instinct because Goku is still thinking about how he should attack. Jiren didn't go all out against UI Goku, and he's still holding back his full power. SS2 Kafla surpassed UI Goku from before, when he was fighting Jiren. Goku improved in UI during his battle with her just like he improved in UI during his battle with Jiren.
Jiren > UI Goku (end of Kafla fight) > SS2 Kafla > UI Goku (end of Jiren fight) > UI Goku (start)
edited 1st Jan '18 9:08:12 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Kefla was in SS2. Vegetto was in SSB. But that time limit on potara is stupid in the first place so I'm not going to defend it any further.
Also, UI makes me feel like Vegeta should retire or something similar. I don't want him getting this powerup and staying Goku's rival anymore. It's old and tired.