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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#73927: Jan 1st 2018 at 1:04:37 AM

So Paragus would be like Nappa getting high on a popularity poll in the West? Fair enough.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#73928: Jan 1st 2018 at 1:07:47 AM

Ah so he's the Japanese Nappa. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73929: Jan 1st 2018 at 1:28:23 AM

@Anomalocaris 20 How the fuck would Black Zamasu work? Is it Zamasu, but emo? Is it Zamasu, but with a darker skin tone? Did Zamasu trade bodies with another, stronger Zamasu from another timeline? Is it just Merged Zamasu?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#73930: Jan 1st 2018 at 3:56:17 AM

Broly being third is immensely depressing.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#73931: Jan 1st 2018 at 4:02:10 AM

He's there cause he is truly the Legendary Supa Saiyan. [awesome] tongue

I'm impressed characters like Hop the cat-girl from Universe 9, Kefla, Kale, Jiren, & Cauli are also on that list despite being very new. Cauli's almost in the top ten & Hop Goddamn it she even has a spot there despite having such short screen-time is quite amazing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#73932: Jan 1st 2018 at 4:03:36 AM

reaaaaally wouldn't put much stock into this

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#73933: Jan 1st 2018 at 4:04:49 AM

[up] Yeah but its just so much fun. tongue

I mean we gotta talk about something different. A lot of the time we just keep arguing about the same crap over & over again. We keep circling the same shit involving power levels & the portrayal of the human supporting cast.

Quite frankly this is rather refreshing.

edited 1st Jan '18 4:07:30 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73934: Jan 1st 2018 at 4:06:32 AM

I'm still shocked that someone voted for Colonel Violet.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73935: Jan 1st 2018 at 5:52:58 AM

Of the four upcoming episodes, which one are you most hyped for?

122: Vegeta fights Jiren with Goku's help while Freeza fights Dyspo.

123: Goku fights Jiren with Vegeta's help while 17 and Gohan fight Toppo.

124: Goku and Vegeta fight Jiren while Gohan helps Freeza fight Dyspo.

125: God of Destruction Toppo.

For me, 125, hands down. No contest. The rest of the stuff is cool, but nothing compares to that hook.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#73936: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:32:42 AM

It's a popularity poll so there's no reason to take it at face value, but at the same time there's no reason to dismiss it either.

And if it nothing else, it explains why we get such an obnoxious amount of Bardock and Broly, and why 17 (But not 18 :V) has been getting super shilled lately.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#73937: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:47:39 AM

It’s actually super gratifying that that little shit Zen-o is nowhere on that list.

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#73938: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:53:22 AM

A bit late to the Yamcha the cheater debate, but I honestly don't see why anyone would be surprised by that. That guy got introduced as desert bandit who tried to kill a child half his size and rob people blind in the middle of a desert. Why would anyone assume he has any worthwhile moral fiber in his body?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73939: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:57:35 AM

[up][up]Why?

[up]Because he's an honorable bandit...

edited 1st Jan '18 10:58:10 AM by randomness4

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#73940: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:10:39 AM

Honestly, once he was done with the Desert Bandit thing, he seemed to become an incredibly decent guy. It even says on his profile on This Very Wiki that he's amazingly nice about everything:

  • Getting his leg broken;

  • Being dumped (since he and Bulma are still rather cordial);

  • more or less befriending the dude who not only killed him (even if only indirectly) but had a child with said ex-girlfriend;

It seems getting out of the bandit business just left Yamcha as a guy who doesn't hold grudges.

But as you said, we're done with that topic. I still want to hear thoughts on my combine the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb into on concept idea.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#73941: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:23:50 AM

Wait, where are you guys getting this poll from? I don't see this anywhere on the DBZ sites I've frequently visit on.

EDIT: Never mind, I've found it. Jesus, you guys move these pages too fast.

edited 1st Jan '18 11:25:37 AM by agent-trunks

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73942: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:29:04 AM

Rob: Kaioken being a power-up from outside energy would make it similar to the Spirit Bomb, but it would also literally turn it into Sage Mode from Naruto. No idea what the Kaioken would gain from the change, lore-wise, aside from making it more like the Spirit Bomb.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#73943: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:30:47 AM

Assuming Goku can handle such multiplier without having his heart explode from the massive strain it could cause.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#73944: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:51:28 AM

Well it just the absorbing energy concept doesn't really get used that much, plus I thought that simplifying things by making them both part of the same concept would be better.

I mean, what is it that makes the Kaioken work anyway? The mechanics behind it are totally mysterious.

Also, if the Kaioken had been like that, then technically, it would be Sage mode that's similar to it, though I was equating it more to Terry Bogard's Hakkyokuseiken.

And perhaps with the absorbing concept, some hard limits on the technique could have been established (how long you can absorb the energy, and how much you can take it). The original Kaioken doesn't really have a known hard limit. Goku can go up to twenty, but we don't know if he can go higher than that.

I'm wondering if we could have gotten more out of both techniques with such a combination.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#73945: Jan 1st 2018 at 12:07:46 PM

Going everything I can recall about the Kaio-Ken, it's really just a multiplier that stacks on already establish power. Of course, since Super Saiyan does that & not as much with strain on the organs there was no real reason to use Kaio-Ken ever again, until recently. Of course, recently it got replace by Ultra Instinct so I'm pretty sure I'm the only on this planet that doesn't like Ultra Instinct because of that.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73946: Jan 1st 2018 at 12:09:34 PM

Just wait for Ultra Instinct Kaioken.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#73947: Jan 1st 2018 at 12:15:12 PM

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Well, Kaioken returning is only in the anime.

In the manga, Toriyama has stuck with not bringing it back, having Goku bring back God instead. We've gotten different opinions on that. I'll have to actually read the manga version of the Hit fight before I can fully judge which is better, but I loved seeing Kaioken come back personally.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#73948: Jan 1st 2018 at 12:54:56 PM

You know, Caulifla is all determined to learn SS3 but wouldn't using it just ensure her defeat? She doesn't really have the stamina to fuel it for that long.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#73949: Jan 1st 2018 at 12:57:18 PM

Given that you don't need it to go Blue, I wonder why Goku is even wasting her time telling her to learn it

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#73950: Jan 1st 2018 at 12:59:19 PM

Perhaps he wants her to master the earlier forms the way he did as a sort of training.

Or maybe the series is just being dumb? I don't really care to be honest.

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