I still see no issue with Yamcha cheating. It's pretty random but also incredibly minor and it's not like being unfaithful has to be a defining trait of someone to be possible. It just doesn't matter that he cheated. It's a completely insignificant detail to get upset over.
It reminds me of JJBA. Joseph Joestar is revealed in a later arc to have cheated on his wife and had an illegitimate child. He's my favourite character and that doesn't worry me at all.
I think intent is the difference here; Joseph cheating had natural consequences to having Josuke as the next Jojo, while Yamcha cheating was mostly done to have an excuse to have him and Bulma break up.
Its not really worth getting upset over I agree, but there was a clear intent on that detail being added.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.Ya know it make some pretty good sense if they used the reasoning that Yamcha let all the fame, power, wealth, & bitches that come with being a successful baseball star go to his head.
It ain't the first time a celebrity gets caught in an infidelity after all.
edited 31st Dec '17 2:54:06 PM by slimcoder
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That's...kind of ignoring my point. The cheating itself wasn't what I was focusing on, but the consequences for doing so. Yamcha cheating was only really done so Bulma could have an excuse to break up with him and get together with Vegeta and make Trunks.
Yes, there could have been a million other ways that could have been done, but I'm focusing on what actually happened and the probable reasons for it.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.Yes, but one didn't lead to a pairing that was mostly thrown together for the sake of said consequence. Yea, you can argue that the fact that Bulma and Vegeta getting together doesn't ultimately matter in the grand scheme of things and was probably mostly done for the sake of shock value. But it was still a rather haphazard and random decision nonetheless.
edited 31st Dec '17 3:04:13 PM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.It's a pretty huge out of character thing for Yamcha though.
I mean, you don't even need Mistare pointing out the questionable logic of how things went to think hey, that doesn't seem right?
It's just Toriyama throwing something together to get the story to go in the direction he wanted. He didn't even try to justify it.
It would probably be even bigger character assassination if not for how the story draws so little attention to it. It's just like hey, that happened, and now we move on.
There's also the fact that yeah, maybe Yamcha is better off as is considering how...demanding Bulma was of him, and how easily she got jealous.
But once again, Bulma and Vegeta has turned out so damned well (I've rather liked their moments in Super...as it's one of the few things I have liked in the series that I don't have to jump through hoops over).
That's a good question. I wonder, if Araki had thought ahead a little more if he'd have been willing to just give Joseph a second child who married Josuke's mother...or have Lisa Lisa have another child. She was said to have remarried post Battle Tendency.
edited 31st Dec '17 3:22:18 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!Maybe Toriyama would have paired him with Bulma.
At that point, if Chi-chi wasn't around, it was either him or Launch.
One Strip! One Strip!Now you're just being semantic :V
Uhhh, as the author of a story that he's trying to sell to an audience...yea, he kinda does. Yea, Yamcha cheated. There's still the whole "Why?" part of the whole situation though.
edited 31st Dec '17 3:27:28 PM by BlackYakuzu94
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Really?
So you're saying because Toriyama never showed him to be faithful, then the cheating is 100% justified?
One Strip! One Strip!But Toriyama has also said that Yamcha is still afraid of women.
So he goes from being terrified of girls, to finding one girl he can be with, to suddenly torpedoing that relationship by cheating, and that whole time he's still nervous around other women?
I mean, I guess maybe he got a little drunk, or something. I guess it doesn't matter, but I'm gonna continue to give the entire thing a side eye if you all don't mind.
New thought:
What if the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb, rather than being separate techniques, stemmed from the same concept of absorbing outside energy?
edited 31st Dec '17 3:32:55 PM by HandsomeRob
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So you don't find anything unusual about a character who started out as a hopeless romantic and never really showed interest in other women after getting a girlfriend, suddenly being revealed to be a cheater to be the least bit suspect? At all?
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Calling it "character assassination" is irrelevant. The point is that there was a clear intention on the part of Toriyama to make Yamcha look bad so the audience feels better about Bulma dumping him and making Trunks with Vegeta.
No there is nothing wrong with that, it's just pointing out an intention.
edited 31st Dec '17 3:35:02 PM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.@ Yamcha: I just assumed that Bulma and Yamcha peacably broke up. You can end a relationship without it being bitter. It's not like their interactions later suggest a lot of salt
@ slimcoder: Canon-wise, does Freeza's race even exist? It's established that King Cold and Freeza are mutant hybrids. It's possible because of that any species related to him wouldn't look much like him.

That actually might be an interesting mechanic for a tabletop RPG character. Make a bruiser who focuses on Strength, and give them "Vegeta Syndrome", where they gain or lose Intelligence points equal to the difference between their Strength and whoever has the next highest Strength in the room.
edited 31st Dec '17 2:36:51 PM by PushoverMediaCritic