God dammit internet! And god dammit universe!
Well that's just...
....hold on. Why weren't Trunks and Mai erased. WE've seen that when the two Zen-O's erase something, they erase all of it: the participants at the tournament, and the inhabitants of the universe. Hell, even that picture of that one Universe 10 dude's family was erased. He gets...everything, so why are Future Trunks and Mai still existing?
I mean, maybe it's due to their very nature as time aberrations, or...
...Maybe Toriyama just forgot. Only time will tell I suppose.
One Strip! One Strip!...Holy shit.
Arha actually liked something...and said so...
The pod people have clearly arrived. Trust no one.
Watched the Mistare Fusion Video.
Pretty much agree with all of it, and not just the parts about Yamcha. I'll give credit to Toriyama: he ultimately made Bulma and Vegeta work, despite sucking at romance, and despite there being no logic to them getting together. Though it helps that he skipped all the meat and gets straight to them being together.
One Strip! One Strip!Ultra Instinct, in terms of presentation, is easily the best transformation in the series. In terms of pure looks from static images, I still prefer Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken.
100% agree with Mistare Fusion's video. Yamcha's cheating is bullshit and always has been. I'd be more likely to believe Bulma breaking up with Yamcha over something minor or Bulma cheating on Yamcha with Vegeta than I am with Yamcha cheating on Bulma. That said, Vegeta and Bulma's relationship currently is kind of perfect, it's just the starting point was a little suspect.
Well, The Cell series is the series where that's a pretty big thing. Characters fuck up almost constantly in really detrimental ways.
Except for everyone's favourite three eyed cowboy that is.
Sure, he doesn't help much, but he doesn't fuck up either.
One Strip! One Strip!There is the point of Bulma deciding to shag a homicidal alien warlord, but to me that's not really more unbelievable than everyone just deciding to put up with said homicidal alien warlord - which they do. Vegeta's behaviour is a bit funny too - I guess he's gone a bit introspective with Freeza's demise.
Tien does actually help a fair bit, it's just that his contributions go to hell when everyone else fucks up.
edited 31st Dec '17 12:29:33 PM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"I never understood the complaints about that. Characters doing dumb things to move the plot along is not inherently bad. If dumb in a way that doesn't suit the character as established, or in way that regresses them to a point they should already be beyond that's one thing, but characters making bad decisions, that make sense for how they have been written, is not something I see as deserving of criticism.
edited 31st Dec '17 12:30:52 PM by LSBK
Well the saga has a lot of characters acting a lot dumber than they usually have been. Vegeta especially spent the entire Freeza saga as cunning as a fox but he's going to be by far the biggest offender from this point on.
I'm not sure if the Cell Saga or the Buu Saga is the one where more characters act stupid, but I think the Cell Saga is the saga where more characters act out of character stupid.
edited 31st Dec '17 12:32:45 PM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"It's funny - Toriyama stated he had all his endgame couples get together offscreen because he says he's terrible at romance, and yet I still find him better at it than writers who do go in-depth on their romance arcs, like Kishimoto and *blech* Nakaba.
edited 31st Dec '17 12:32:55 PM by HamburgerTime
Vegeta isn't at all out of character, the circumstances are just different. Against Frieza, from the beginning he has no delusions of being able to beat him, which is (partially) why he wants to become immortal in the first place, he sees it as his only chance of winning (at least at first).
In the Cell Arc, everything he does is about proving he's the strongest, and letting Cell become complete ties into that perfectly.
The character is acting differently because context and motivations are different now.
edited 31st Dec '17 12:35:40 PM by LSBK
Well, he admitted to keeping him around and creating Frieza because he was popular.
I'd say it must have began around then (so probably near the end of the Saiyan saga) and maybe fully codified around the time he decided to kill him in the Frieza Saga (because people didn't want him to die, and Toriyama knew he'd be bringing him back).
One Strip! One Strip!

Oh so now Libby is cheating. Damn she's annoying.
So, um, what she says to Jiren implies she uses her abilities to force people to love her? That's... something.
What's the point to using the spirit bomb when there's only, what, 120? people here, almost all of whom would not be willing to lend their energy?
Oh yeah and it's cheating for the same reason Libby's move was. Well, maybe a bit less since that move required the use of items.
edited 31st Dec '17 10:55:51 AM by Arha