Especially Gohan. Going from one of the top fighters to a supporting cast member is one hell of a downgrade.
He's still stronger than literally every major opponent that Goku fights. I mean he won three straight matches in Universe 6 vs. Universe 7. was the only one who actually made any progress towards fighting Beerus (even if it didn't amount to much)
edited 26th Dec '17 5:03:13 PM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.I gotta state, its not that I don't like Veggie its just that I don't respect him anymore.
He's like a clown. Sure he gets a lot of screen time but its mostly him making a fool outta himself.
Also I didn't like him taking a lot of the fights in U6 Arc. At least Hit kicked his ass like a bitch.
edited 26th Dec '17 5:06:28 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Fair enough. I was just pointing that out. You don't have to like Vegeta or even respect him, but he is the second main character of the franchise for better or worse. Popularity Power dog.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.Bulma's Namekian wasn't used because adding a bunch of translation shit to conversations would do nothijg but drag things down
The Namekians need to speak 'common' to be able to meaningfully interact with Freeza's troops, since them not knowing Namekian is a plot point.
It wouldn't improve the story to try and work in Bulma using Namekian, except in a terribly formulaic 'you need to check these boxes for a good story' kind of way.
You could have her translate the wishes, but Dende can do that better and needs to be there anyway for his healing. It's much more efficient to use him and makes sense.
edited 26th Dec '17 5:15:09 PM by Saiga
Well, the conversation was pretty far along by the time I got to here.
I had a whole bunch to say...then I noticed the broken record on the ground: Handsome Rob's greatest hits. All the same arguments, all the damn time.
In other words, I had nothing to add to this that wasn't my usual bullshit.
I will say this: when he does care enough about characters to use them, he does a pretty good job I'd say. Vegeta had a great arc, and the point about how it was better that Goku beat Frieza because that gave Vegeta a new goal, whereas he'd still be the same evil bastard if he'd done it himself is a good argument.
Welp, now to see how many more pages have come up while I was writing this.
One Strip! One Strip!People want Veggie to have a good showing...
If he wins, that's a bonus...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Vegeta is perpetually doomed to be second best. The one time Goku wasn't the best, he still wasn't better than Gohan.
This song needs more love.If he wins, that's a bonus...
Yeah there's a difference between getting your ass kicked in humiliating fashion and losing a fight while still giving a good hustle. Vegeta is no stranger to the former, but I'm guessing he'll end up doing the latter this time around.
edited 26th Dec '17 6:26:32 PM by Moth13
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I was talking about when Goku was dead. He was better simply by virtue of being alive.
edited 26th Dec '17 6:29:48 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.Since when?
Vegeta not only losing, but doing so in an utterly humiliating manner is tradition. I don't expect them to break it any time soon.
One Strip! One Strip!What do you mean would be?
We've seen him as exactly that during the Cell Saga.
Vegeta: Ha ha bitches! I'm a Super Saiyan! <Gets rekt by 18> Ok, now I'm an ascended Saiyan <Lets Cell reach his perfect form, and then gets rekt again>
Vegeta getting what he wants when he wants it is never a good thing, at least until he's gotten something he didn't realize he cared for (a family).
One Strip! One Strip!He was stronger than him for most of the saga...including then.
edited 26th Dec '17 7:24:32 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.

If you mean by getting his ass beat like a ragdoll then sure he contributes a lot.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."