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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72701: Dec 22nd 2017 at 7:22:05 PM

They could have just mentioned that the DB's were in sleep mode so they can't be used at the moment then.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#72702: Dec 22nd 2017 at 7:22:32 PM

Were the dragonballs even available? They just had that "Goku comically fails to bring King Kai back to life" episode.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72703: Dec 22nd 2017 at 7:34:54 PM

I can see Goku or Vegeta refusing to make a wish like that but Gohan should be like 'Yeah I have an infant daughter and don't even like fighting, imma cheat.'

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#72704: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:19:48 PM

You think that would stop Goku and Vegeta? I mean, we remember why the Androids were allowed to rampage right? Because when those two make a choice, everyone falls in step, no matter how little sense it makes.

One Strip! One Strip!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72705: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:21:12 PM

And plus, Gohan's all excited about getting back into shape and proving himself and such.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#72706: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:22:57 PM

'Yeah I have an infant daughter and don't even like fighting, imma cheat.'

Yes, because cheating in a fight presided over by gods who have demonstrated the ability to annihilate immortal beings is a wise idea...

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72707: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:24:56 PM

It's only cheating in spirit. There's nothing in the rules against using the dragonballs beforehand to give yourself special abilities. People were using potara in the ring and stuff, weren't they? This is less against the rules than that.

edited 22nd Dec '17 9:25:09 PM by Arha

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72708: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:25:24 PM

Well, Zeno seems fine with anything skirting the rules so long as it's cool looking, but I doubt they'd be so keen on anything that basically guarantees who the winners will be.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72709: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:26:08 PM

Thing is Zeno will only allow things if its fun.

So if he's bored he won't let it slide.

Though honestly nothing has bored him yet.

[up] Unlike with Jiren that guarantees them of never losing so I'll assume Zeno is capable of realizing when tension is lost.

edited 22nd Dec '17 9:27:02 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#72710: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:28:23 PM

We haven't been told what you have to do to get the Super Dragonballs at all. It's 38 minutes in. Why haven't we been told what you have to do to get the Super Dragonballs? It's essential for the plot! It's what Frieza and Vegeta are concerned over!

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72711: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:29:29 PM

[up] I think it was for best combat performance.

So its a toss-up between Jiren & Goku at this point.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72712: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:30:31 PM

Presumably best combat performance from someone who still, you know, exists.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72713: Dec 22nd 2017 at 9:33:17 PM

[up] That is true.

I assume you might still get the wish even if your universe loses.

At least I hope so.

edited 22nd Dec '17 9:33:34 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#72714: Dec 23rd 2017 at 6:56:26 AM

I’ve always loved how the Dragonballs are only ever used to fix the major problems (revive everyone that died usually) but never PREVENTING the problem (teleport Freeza to another galaxy, find Dr. Gero before he activated the androids, etc).

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72715: Dec 23rd 2017 at 7:20:57 AM

Works both ways though - why didn't Dr. Gero try to hunt for the dragonballs himself to teleport Goku into the sun?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Cross (Don’t ask)
#72716: Dec 23rd 2017 at 7:45:15 AM

[up][up] Because it won't work if the target is stronger than the creator, or am I misremembering the explanation given.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72717: Dec 23rd 2017 at 7:46:41 AM

You can't kill someone if they're stronger than the creator. Anything else is fair game until stated otherwise.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#72718: Dec 23rd 2017 at 7:49:25 AM

Shenron couldn't teleport Goku back to Earth without his consent, right?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72719: Dec 23rd 2017 at 7:51:24 AM

Huh, that's right.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#72720: Dec 23rd 2017 at 7:51:47 AM

[up][up] Porunga couldn't do it. IDK if Shenron ever tried to.

edited 23rd Dec '17 7:51:54 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#72721: Dec 23rd 2017 at 8:47:22 AM

Though, that raises the question of how Goku knew that Porunga wanted to transport him. You'd think that Porunga could just grant wishes instantly, with no time for the recipients to say "no".

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72722: Dec 23rd 2017 at 10:04:30 AM

Ughhh, Tien recruitment episode. I know I wanted to watch this one so I could get mad at it but I'm cringing before Roshi even does anything.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72724: Dec 23rd 2017 at 10:07:27 AM

He ran out, steam blowing out of his nose or whatever and screaming about how this is what he's been waiting for after complaining that Tien has only been training 'scruffy guys' instead of cuties. It's going to get much worse soon. I can tell.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#72725: Dec 23rd 2017 at 10:08:35 AM

Ah. I don't watch the super anime, so I wouldn't know every detail.


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