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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#72376: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:14:56 PM

Yeah. I love the Kaioken aura.

As for brining in a new guard...well Toriyama doesn't seem willing to do that. He tried with Gohan, Goten and Trunks, and then tossed that out. But at the same time, he's never really had much use of the old guard in real combat. Sure, Krillin gets to do some stuff, but he's always hopelessly outmatched.

I imagine one issue with bringing in a new guard for Buu was that due to the massive power gaps and the lack of Saiyans, you would have had maybe three fighters that were worth anything (two when Goten and Trunks fuse), because he never seemed to want to do anything with the other characters but have them get stomped to hype up the new villain and Goku...but he took way too long to actually phase them out too.

One Strip! One Strip!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#72377: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:29:25 PM

[up][up] using it that way means the humans would be unable to do anything in the parts where they had no Kaio-ken on OR end the fight the moment they did use it.

The higher the multiplier gets the less sense it makes as an temporary boost.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#72379: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:38:47 PM

"#Human Lives Matter."

Stop human oppression.

edited 18th Dec '17 8:38:59 PM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#72380: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:38:55 PM

[up][up] That's pretty freaking good.

edited 18th Dec '17 8:39:02 PM by hardcorefakes

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72381: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:40:31 PM

"Ningen or non-gen".

............... I'm fucking dead. [lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol]

edited 18th Dec '17 8:40:41 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#72382: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:41:24 PM

On spelling, I prefer Buu and Frieza, because they hide the puns just a little more. But I actually prefer Vegerot, or even Vegarot because it gives Goku and Vegeta closer to an even split with the name, whereas Vegeto is just one letter away from Vegeta and the o is from an extra syllable that's only there because of how the Japanese language is structured. Besides Gogeta looks like it might be pronounced like "go-getter" and Veku was also presented as a pun, so Fusion names that also make a pun are a win-win.

On the humans getting kaio-ken, there was also nothing stopping Toriyama from creating a human exclusive transformation, either. Heck maybe if he had remembered Launch he'd have struck on the idea to make super Saiyans a variation on a form obtainable by humans.

And on changing the cast up with new characters, I would like the kids to take over, a series focusing on Goten, Trunks, Marron, Ubb, Pan, and Brah as the new Z warriors has so much potential while still leaving stuff for the older cast to do, since they'd still be around to help their kids if they really need it. Heck, Ubb, Goten, and Marron are almost complete blank slates for them to work with and every one of them could bring us new variations on old techniques and transformations. All we'd really need is a good starting villain to fill the rival role for Gotenks(who collectively would be the main hero) and we could have a proper sequel series on our hands.

edited 18th Dec '17 8:42:01 PM by TwistedGear

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#72383: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:51:57 PM

"#Human Lives Matter."

Stop human oppression.

Don't do this.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#72384: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:54:24 PM

All we'd really need is a good starting villain to fill the rival role for Gotenks

Easy. Kuriza.

This song needs more love.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#72385: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:05:15 PM

We just all have to accept the fact that the only thing good about humanity is that Saiyans seem to like them.

One Strip! One Strip!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#72386: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:10:54 PM

Damn, I'm late for the weekly "humans got screwed over" discussion.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:11:04 PM by Lionheart0

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#72387: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:12:18 PM

Don't do this.

I can and I will. :)

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#72388: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:15:02 PM

[up][up]

Welcome to the party.

[up]

You maniac.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72389: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:16:14 PM

Krillin scoring a ringout on Gohan is the stupidest thing I've seen from this series in awhile. Also, Gohan just fought a guy that was way stronger and faster while blinded and being unable to sense energy while also dissolving from the inside and still basically won.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72390: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:20:09 PM

[up] Oh you are already there. Just curious here, what you think of the Wolf fights, especially Buu's fight?

Oh God do we really keep having this same conversation about humans in a short repetitive circle?

[up][up][up] Keep doing it ma brotha. [tup]

edited 18th Dec '17 9:20:32 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72391: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:24:53 PM

Wolf fights were okay. Goku's was the least interesting, especially since it was impossible to root for him and how hard he stomped.

I'm skipping large chunks of this episode but one of the lines I did hear was 'the three destructo disks were a distraction?' and I was like 'didn't you just establish that this is a tournament where killing is expressly forbidden?'

Edit: And yes, you have to have the stupid humans punching way above their weight class arguments for now because I'm still watching it and it's stupid every time I see it.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:25:27 PM by Arha

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#72392: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:25:21 PM

[up][up] We keep having the same convos in a repetitive cycle period.

[up]Being blinded by poison and having your eyes burned are not the same thing. Plus he had much more time to get used to the poison blindness. Krillin being able to actually knock him out is another story though.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:28:44 PM by Jedi1113

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72393: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:27:34 PM

Okay, I think this is my official position on Super and is very unlikely to change from here on out.

This is a pretty decent DB fanfic but I really wish the writer wasn't such a fanboy.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:27:48 PM by Arha

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72394: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:30:46 PM

[up][up] Damn we need to have more varied topics.

[up] Nice that you thought the wolves were decent though I think this show has multiple writers & I think its the manga thats being written by a major fanboy.

I feel bad for the Trio, they truly gave their all but they just couldn't cut it.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:32:27 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#72395: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:31:53 PM

[up][up] So you'd rather have a story written by someone who hates the series? I recommend GT for that sort of feeling.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:32:04 PM by TwistedGear

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72396: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:33:08 PM

People go on about Bergamo in his fight against Goku but I never found him particularly sympathetic. Not to say that I was on Goku's side, but the Trio de Dangers were dicks, and Bergamo's "outrage" was not something I could care about, especially when they flat out say "Hey, Goku, if you throw the match everyone dies right now".

Like, don't have them say that if you want us to be conflicted about Goku winning. Though they stopped even pretending we were supposed to see Goku as the "bad guy" pretty quickly, and the manga nipped that in the bud basically from the beginning.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:40:17 PM by LSBK

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72397: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:34:25 PM

When fanboys are in charge of the writing there's always a weird smell hanging about and I don't want to touch anything because it looks very sticky.

^ I wasn't rooting for Bergamo either. It's more a matter of 'why would I want Goku to win this fight when it ensures that quadrillions will die?'

edited 18th Dec '17 9:35:17 PM by Arha

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72398: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:39:08 PM

[up][up] Heh its not like being a dick makes em unlikable. A lot of our "beloved" cast is comprised dicks such examples including Veggie & Beer. tongue

I just feel a lot of pity for them. They come from the weakest universe & its quite clear from the teams overall grunge aesthetic its a type of "Any day could be your last" type of world so you have to be tough to survive.

Helps that their wolves which is inherently cool & the fact that unlike most of the To P contestants they were each capable of a decent fight.

[up] The manga writer actually made a rather known DBZ doujin before being officially hired.

edited 18th Dec '17 9:40:16 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#72399: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:39:59 PM

I can and I will. :)

damn... edgy...

No but seriously that's a really insensitive """joke""" to make.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72400: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:41:48 PM

I took it as more of a jab at people going "White/All Lives Matter" than Black Lives Matter. It makes more sense for what I know of Yakuza that way.


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