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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72151: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:41:41 AM

There's no reason to assume that Goten and Trunks would fuck around (anymore than anyone else) and Krillin's experience in tournaments should really mean jack. Goten and Trunks know how to hold back from killing opponents and they know what ring-outs are. And greater pure power would in fact make it less likely for them to be knocked out quickly, because it would mean comparatively fewer challengers would be able to do so with them than Krillin.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:42:01 AM by LSBK

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72152: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:43:23 AM

At worst, that would disqualify Trunks. Goten isn't a showoff.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72153: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:44:14 AM

"But yeah, as implausible as it sounds, base Future Trunks was stronger than Super Saiyan 1 Kid Trunks, "

That doesn't sound implausable at all, SSJ is a multiplier and Future Trunks has been undergoing strenuous training for a good long while and Kid Trunks has not, not to mention Future Trunks being a good few years older and more physically developed.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#72154: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:47:53 AM

That wasn't what I meant as the implausible part, as indicated by the comma. The implausible part is the Humans being stronger than the Saiyan kids, which was just supported by Future Trunks taking SS1 Kid Trunks' punch and then beating him off-screen without even transforming.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:50:57 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#72155: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:55:06 AM

[up]x4

Weren't there people on this thread claiming that Goten and Trunks would be "too unreliable" for a tournament like this?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#72156: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:57:34 AM

[up]Just quoting Goku, who said the exact same thing.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72157: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:00:31 AM

I think Goten & Trunks would have done pretty well.

The issue of arrogance only comes up when their fusing so that should be a last resort same as with Kefla.

Heh it would have been cute seeing the U6 Saiyan's interacting with the little kiddie Saiyan's now that I think about it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#72158: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:06:12 AM

Yeah, the humans have nothing on even the base kids, much less super sayians. It's just balant nostalgia pandering.

How many times have you called for Gohan to get eliminated now?

One day I'm going to be right, and I'll be super smug about it.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#72159: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:06:18 AM

[up][up][up]

Everything Goku says is right?

edited 17th Dec '17 11:06:38 AM by hardcorefakes

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#72160: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:10:10 AM

This one thing is.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72161: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:11:34 AM

Because it agrees with what Pushover wants and no other reason.

edited 17th Dec '17 11:11:57 AM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72162: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:12:23 AM

If this tournament followed a regular tournament format instead of a Battle Royal bringing the humans would have made more sense.

Like if the universe functioned in weight class system then of course there would be opponents in Goku & Vegeta's class but also guys in Krillen's class.

Goku is usually right about shit. He's smarter than we give him credit for....... in Z at least.

edited 17th Dec '17 11:13:07 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#72163: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:16:04 AM

[up][up]Sorry I happen to agree with canon. Keep living in whatever reality you want, bud.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72164: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:18:37 AM

If Super Goku was consistent with how Goku used to be, I might agree, but as he's not, I don't.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72165: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:18:38 AM

When it comes to fighting and power Goku is usually dead on.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72166: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:20:25 AM

I don't trust the word of Super Goku.

I trust Z Goku or End of Z Goku.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#72167: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:23:22 AM

Was it Super Goku that said Trunks and Goten aren't reliable? I forget.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72168: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:23:27 AM

I mean, have K Trunks and Goten kept up with their training?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#72169: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:25:48 AM

Just putting this out there, but the tournament proper actually had a pretty neat example of Krillin using his skill to contribute. After Shosa knocked #18 off the edge, he jumped after her, caught her and used a ki blast to propel them both back onto the stage. That was pretty neat, and it reminded me of the time Roshi did the same thing in his bout with Krillin at the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.

Roshi did pretty well for himself, too, knocking out three opponents in a row.

Tien... not so much.

edited 17th Dec '17 11:26:21 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72170: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:26:07 AM

So here's a thought: what if Goku and Gohan defeat Jiren together?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72171: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:26:42 AM

That be wicked.

Father & Son saving the universe.

....... Unlike Vegeta & Future Trunks. tongue

edited 17th Dec '17 11:27:12 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72172: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:29:09 AM

Do you mean by dance-fusing or simply by co-ordination?

(Also, Tien was fucking wasted in the Tournament of Power, which is a huge shame since I'm a big fan :c)

edited 17th Dec '17 11:31:46 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72173: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:30:23 AM

Coordination. If it happens I think you could say they foreshadowed it a bit.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#72174: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:31:57 AM

The lyrics for the opening is apparently Goku encouraging someone to like save the day or something.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#72175: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:34:14 AM

Unless Gohan unlocks his Blanco transformation, there's no way he's beating Jiren solo. Maybe Goku and Jiren eliminate each other and it's up to him to beat Toppo or Dyspo.


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