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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#72126: Dec 17th 2017 at 3:43:49 AM

Everything's better with humorous comedy.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72127: Dec 17th 2017 at 4:35:01 AM

Can't you just imagine Goten and Trunks arguing about who should train them, then asking a random person in the street:

"Who's the best martial arts trainer in the world?"

"Why, it's Mr. Hercule Satan of course."

"Huh? Oh, okay!"

edited 17th Dec '17 4:35:19 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#72128: Dec 17th 2017 at 4:45:05 AM

When Defence Guy's armour broke I thought he"d be all like "Haha, my armour was just a limiter and without it I have the greatest speed/attack/sense of humor/whatever" tongue

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Call me Blast, not Fedetropes
#72129: Dec 17th 2017 at 5:52:58 AM

I'm pretty sure Goten and Trunks are aware that MR.Satan isn't all he's cracked up to be, based on trunks reaction when he met him in the tournament.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#72130: Dec 17th 2017 at 6:00:38 AM

Would it even work as comedy? They could poke him and he'd be sent flying. The only potential for comedy there is slapstick and that gets old quickly.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#72131: Dec 17th 2017 at 6:42:31 AM

17 calling the tactic of tanking attacks and waiting for the opponent to tire himself stupid was the higlight of the episode. [lol]

Gohan, you had one job! After all this big talk you can't even eliminate them when given an opening?!

And of course they let Pepperioni do his thing, instead of just kicking him out of bounds.

Two predictions:

-Gohan gets eliminated soon.

-It's not U7 that beats Aniraza but Jiren who will suddenly remember he should do something in this tournament and one shots Aniraza.

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#72132: Dec 17th 2017 at 7:31:27 AM

Yeah, I've been thinking Jiren's going to beat Aniraza too. I'm seeing something like this:

Aniraza is stronger than Kaioken x 20 Blue Goku, but he's been paying attention throughout the tournament and doesn't want to KO Goku or Vegeta, for fear of invoking Ultra Instinct. Aniraza decides the best way to beat U7 is by destroying the arena and eliminating them that way. He also beats up the U7 team pretty thoroughly, limiting their access to their higher transformations. He eliminates 18 and 17. Jiren decides that he's not allowing Aniraza to destroy the arena and he challenges him.

Aniraza does about as well against Jiren as Kaioken x 20 Blue Goku did, if not better. He lands a few hits, but none of them do any damage. Jiren takes Aniraza down in a few hits and knocks him out of bounds with his signature blast and Badass Arm-Fold. U3 is erased. Cliff-hanger with the exhausted and battered U7 team face-to-face with the relatively fine U11 team. Vegeta steps up.

edited 17th Dec '17 8:23:38 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#72133: Dec 17th 2017 at 7:57:01 AM

[up][up] How many times have you called for Gohan to get eliminated now?

Cuz he's had so many fake outs now.

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Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#72134: Dec 17th 2017 at 8:21:23 AM

“Calling” Gohan getting eliminated every episode is like standing outside every day and “calling” that it will rain.

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Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Making darkness adorable since 1999
#72135: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:07:00 AM

What would be the opposite of a Death Glare? Because Vegeta had a hilarious one in Battle of Gods. XD

During his random song-and-dance number, he had a super-embarrassed look on his face that made him look like he wanted to receive death rather than give it. XD [awesome]

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72136: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:08:03 AM

I'm pretty sure I saw more than 28 types of aliens among Frieza's troops. Also, wait what, Krillin was one of their first picks? And then they're like 'oh no Trunks and Goten are no good even though they could literally tear Krillin in two.'

Okay, guess I'll just have to admit that the tournament picks are blatant pandering.

And then they immediately suggest Master Roshi next. What the hell.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:08:52 AM by Arha

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#72137: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:10:31 AM

The idea was that they would go for people who have more technique; not sure how valid that was...

Also, no fusing is allowed I believe, and Krillin is stronger than either Goten or Trunks individually.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72138: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:16:49 AM

Ha ha ha no he isn't. Not even close. Also if no fusing is allowed then those U6? saiyans are cheaters as well as this Aniraza guy you all keep talking about.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:17:28 AM by Arha

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#72139: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:18:49 AM

[up][up][up] Multiples species could inhabit a single planet. Also it is fairly likely not all of them have intact homeworlds.

The 28 planet thing is still dumb though.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:19:05 AM by Jedi1113

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72140: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:24:09 AM

Huh, I forgot about that, in that case why don't U7 summon Vegeto.... OH MY GOSH IS THAT GONNA BE HOW THEY BEAT JIREN?

Oh and no, Krillin has to be stronger than an individual barely trained Super Saiyan 1 by now, he just has to be. He... he has to be?

EDIT: Oh my god, they're about 4 or 5 times stronger at least in just SSJ mode. What the fuck.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:27:23 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#72141: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:25:43 AM

Why? Let's be incredibly generous and say he has a power level of a million. Trunks and Goten only have to have a power level of 20k to match that. Or at least they would if Super wasn't totally ignoring how big of a multiplier SS is.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:25:55 AM by Arha

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#72142: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:29:02 AM

Looked it up, apparently by Cell Saga Krillin has 9 million while Goten has about 47 million in SSJ form (untrained).

Seriously, fuck Saiyans.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:29:29 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72143: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:29:35 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Super wants us to think that Krillin is stronger than them, but what Super wants us to believe, and what actually makes sense based on what's been previously established often aren't the same thing.

[up]I don't know where you got those power levels from, but they're bullshit. For one, no official numerical power levels were given after the Namek Saga. Two, there's no reason to think that Krillin ever actually got that high. Three, Goten would have to be way stronger than that as a Super Saiyan.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:32:22 AM by LSBK

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#72144: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:31:27 AM

I feel like Krillin in Super is stronger than they are. Not that DBS is consistent or always logical but that's how it is.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72145: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:32:34 AM

That would only be the tip of the iceberg in things Super does that don't make sense. At least you could simply say that Krillin made up 43 million power via training, or something. That's simply hugely implausable.

Trunks performs the friggin Genki Dama while not knowing how then *forms it into a sword* all while using a fake SSB form that has still not been properly explained.

[up][up] Unofficial calculations (of course, unreliable, but I just needed something to give me a ballpark figure).

edited 17th Dec '17 10:33:37 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72146: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:34:29 AM

[up]My point is that those are some terrible calculations though.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72147: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:35:22 AM

Either way, I don't see what's so hugely ridiculous at Krillin getting to 9 million via training. That seems more like a justification for him to be able to see the moves of the people fighting since his power level could be 10'000 and it wouldn't make a difference to the combat feats he does.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:36:36 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#72148: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:37:18 AM

Even ignoring the initial unlikelihood of training people able to get him there, Krillin handn't been training for years at that point.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#72149: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:38:06 AM

Also, wait what, Krillin was one of their first picks? And then they're like 'oh no Trunks and Goten are no good even though they could literally tear Krillin in two.' Okay, guess I'll just have to admit that the tournament picks are blatant pandering.

This isn't just a contest of strength. It's a tournament with rules. My guess is that Goku assumed that Goten and Trunks would just spend too much time fucking around instead of focusing on the task at hand (that is, going for ringouts).

Also, Krillin has years of tournament experience. He's used to fighting in a setting in which a) the goal is to knock your opponent out of the ring, and b) killing will get you disqualified (or in this case, zapped out of existence).

I agree that maybe Krillin shouldn't have been their first choice, but he wasn't a bad one, and he ended up doing kinda well all things considered (one knockout, two assists and one save).

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#72150: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:40:53 AM

But yeah, as implausible as it sounds, base Future Trunks was stronger than Super Saiyan 1 Kid Trunks, and I think in the very next episode for Arha, Krillin defeats base Gohan and pushes base Goku to use Super Saiyan 1. The Humans are absolutely stronger than the Saiyan kids right now.


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