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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#71251: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:20:04 PM

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& All the god scale fighters.

Barely over 10 episodes...to randomness' remembrance.

Anyone willing to do the math on this?

edited 9th Dec '17 7:20:39 PM by agent-trunks

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#71252: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:22:08 PM

I could, but it's not worth the effort...

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#71253: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:22:30 PM

Even their voices are FTL.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#71254: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:24:53 PM

Clearly they should have recruited Burter instead of Frieza.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71255: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:25:16 PM

Well, I've seen the episode now. Still think it counts as progress, but it wasn't a great episode. Oh well.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#71256: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:27:28 PM

Anyone willing to do the math on this.

It took 9 episodes since Freeza threw the attack to the core.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71257: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:27:35 PM

Heh all the hype those bugs got.

Fell flat right? tongue

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#71258: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:28:01 PM

I could, but it's not worth the effort...

It really isn't. Especially I specifically remember liking those episodes.

Clearly they should have recruited Burter instead of Frieza.

Bub, what are you on? Guldo is the superior choice, he's faster than Burter.

Heh all the hype those bugs got.

Fell flat right? tongue

Just another reason to dislike the episode. Even if there was only one bug

edited 9th Dec '17 7:48:03 PM by agent-trunks

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#71259: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:29:41 PM

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It's a mistake to get hyped in DBZ. It just means you're there to make someone else looked good when they beat you.

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Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#71260: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:45:09 PM

Man the “heroes” just shrugging off mass genocide again and again is getting really old.

Honest question, what was the point of this tournament? Almost every single character aside from Hit, Kefla, and Jiren are basically jokes that don’t stand any chance against U7. The only eliminations U7 has had were a sucker punch (on one of its weakest members), a self sacrifice that made no sense, a forfeit (from a character who explicitly stopped training seriously back in OG Dragonball), and a character being helpless against a strategy that an entire arc was dedicated toward (with two of the people who used it right there even). They’ve personally eliminated most of the fighters and finished every Universe off. So my question is: Why? Not in story but narratively. What was the point of a Tournament of Power if everyone sucks compared to the heroes? Where’s the conflict? Why not have at least a couple of credible threats from a few other universes? Why have a tournament that ostensibly involves the strongest fighters from the MULTIVERSE, and have none of them able to even beat U7’s weakest members in a 1 on 1 fight? Hell why even have a battle royale at all if it’s just going to come down to single universe on universe fights? It makes no sense.

Rant over but god this arc has so much wasted potential and it sucks to see.

edited 9th Dec '17 7:48:56 PM by Larfleeze

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#71261: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:46:07 PM

About the characters being FTL, no way. That makes no sense with Hit being at all defeatable and so on.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71262: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:48:17 PM

Cause after decades of following the heroes and the absurd strengths they've gotten to, it'd be really lazy to have the new universes have a large number of relevant fighters on the level of the heroes. I mean sure, the humans shouldn't be hard to beat, but if everyone can throw out SSB level guys than why the hell did we need to spend so much development on Goku and Vegeta's journey? It's an issue with escalation and the solution isn't just to get lazy about it.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#71263: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:49:42 PM

So now I've gotta wonder, where exactly did that purple palette swap image of Damom come from, if Gamisaras isn't a bug dude?

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#71264: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:49:43 PM

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That seems to be the most common complaint about this saga/arc.

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But the ability to destroy a universe is more credible?

edited 9th Dec '17 7:50:25 PM by agent-trunks

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71265: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:49:58 PM

But that just makes things a waste of time.

It should all just be cut down then.

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Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#71266: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:50:17 PM

Beerus was traveling between planets pretty casually, and there are several characters that can keep up with him. Even before then we had Gotenks flying around the earth 9 times, and at the beginning of Z we had Piccolo's ki blast reaching the moon in seconds. FTL Dragon Ball characters isn't that much of a stretch.

Now FTL to the point where one in-universe minute takes 20 RL minutes is where it gets ridiculous.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#71267: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:51:41 PM

So now I've gotta wonder, where exactly did that purple palette swap image of Damom come from, if Gamisaras isn't a bug dude?

Placeholder I'm guessing. I'm more confused about Damom's orginal profile describing a "shed skin that explodes" technique that never materialized.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71268: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:55:11 PM

If it wasn't for the fact that he on the whole seems like an excuse to get Piccolo off the stage, who is once that's done quickly rendered rather pointless (along with the rest of Universe 4 - he wasn't just their last chance to exist, he was their last change to be interesting at all), Damon would be my favorite character introduced in the TOP. He's a cool idea, but like a lot of the ideas introduced here he's wasted on a story that by design requires him to be used by the plot and then forgotten immediately.

I rather like Dyspo too. At least he's still around.

edited 9th Dec '17 7:55:47 PM by KnownUnknown

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#71269: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:56:20 PM

Where’s the conflict? Why not have at least a couple of credible threats from a few other universes?

Because Toriyama likes to make his work harder on him than it needs to be.

Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#71270: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:56:34 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Except Hit and Magetta already were on SSB level. This Tournament was built for years as a “Big Thing” that was so serious they had to bring Freeza aka the Space Napolhitler. So why isn’t it being treated as that now?

edited 9th Dec '17 7:58:03 PM by Larfleeze

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#71271: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:57:54 PM

[up][up][up]Which is odd, because Toriyama is notoriously lazy, so you'd think he'd be the opposite.

Then again, that laziness may be why he tends to default to certain solutions, and why anytime he seems to come up with something new, he eventually defaults to and then the heroes got stronger and won.

edited 9th Dec '17 7:58:14 PM by HandsomeRob

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71272: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:58:12 PM

Incompetence basically.

Somehow one of the biggest franchises in the world can't manage to churn out a decent fucking story.

What the fuck are these writers being paid for? Toriyama doesn't really give a shit so he's not an excuse for why there doing badly.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71273: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:58:41 PM

What? Magetta isn't SSB level at all. Hit's power is a little wonky but he's still just one guy.

Even every universe having a Hit level guy would be pushing it in terms of plot convenience.

Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#71274: Dec 9th 2017 at 8:01:42 PM

Magetta beat Vegeta straight up and only lost because Vegeta landed on a small piece of broken ring (which even Vegeta thought was BS) and due to his poor self esteem.

edited 9th Dec '17 8:04:08 PM by Larfleeze

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71275: Dec 9th 2017 at 8:02:24 PM

You might want to go back and look at Vegeta's hair colour.


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