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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#71076: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:12:47 PM

Oozaru Broly is in Dragon Ball Fusions but we don't really get a good indication of what he's like because he's under the control of Towa.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:12:55 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#71077: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:27:54 PM

"unique visual flair" - they're green. That's literally the only unique thing about them.

"his ultimates are basically nuke bombs" - so... like every really strong Ki attack then?

"over the top brutal wrestling style" - I remember him doing one or two good lariats, but look at the moment where he dodges Goku and Piccolo trying to hit him by just swaying. They can't even bother to be consistent in how he moves.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:30:00 PM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71078: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:28:42 PM

No it isn't, now you're being dishonest. They also have a unique visual effect on charging them, where the whole screen is tinted and 'drawn in' to the formed blast.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#71079: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:30:53 PM

He also has an energy shield, that's pretty unique.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71080: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:31:57 PM

Broly never ever fired a beam. Every attack he chucks like a grenade.

His move-set is the very literal definition of grenade spam.

He also uses Ki body explosions too.

[up] Ooooh I don't recall that but that's good too.

[up][up] They are always a treat to see & boy are they gonna look amazing in Fighter Z.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:32:45 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#71081: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:32:09 PM

Discounting that every Ki fighter technically has an energy field around them...

loads of people pull that trick, thinking of Cell and Android 17 specifically.

Broly is basically everything wrong with DBZ summed up. He has zero personality, zero charm, his powers are both saiyan wank *and* never properly explained *and* uninteresting, his backstory is atrociously bad, and he's produced one half decent film and two godawful ones.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:33:57 PM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71082: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:43:49 PM

Broly fights with lots of grapples, clotheslines, and slams, giving him more unique choreography than many other fighters in the series.

He was an interesting idea, especially with his Sun Wukong sumbolism, but the execution left much to be desired and the sequels/extra what-if forms have added nothing to him.

But, as far as movie villains go, he's fine. They don't have a huge impact on the grand scheme of things, except for him leading to Kale (admittedly, that's worthy of criticismtongue).

On another note, despite him being hailed as "everything wrong with Z" he's very different from the usual DB villains. Very, very much so - not many share his physique, style or straight-forwardness. He's more like a scapegoat for those that want to levy easy criticism against Z.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:45:59 PM by Saiga

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71083: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:51:48 PM

[up] Huh never thought of that. Yeah his movie is noticeably different especially since most of the Z films follow the same general plot.

Man Broly is a legend. I only wish he could be made canon so he can finally be done right.

Though considering its Super were talking about maybe its for the best we just be content with Kale.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:52:21 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#71084: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:52:46 PM

Do you really want Broly's backstory made canon?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71085: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:54:41 PM

I said done right.

Ergo he be given a better backstory & motivation.

At least Kale's motivation lies in jealousy & an inferiority complex.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:55:24 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71086: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:56:16 PM

You can make him canon without keeping everything the same. Hence the 'done right'

Really just cut the reason he hates Goku and have him instead grow to hate Goku after meeting him for being an insult to the Saiyan's warrior culture.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#71087: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:57:04 PM

Just redirect his anger towards the remaining Saiyans (specifically Vegeta) and/or Frieza, and there's a better motive right there.

The legend has returned.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71088: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:58:55 PM

My idea was that Paragus hated the Vegetas, but Broly ended up liking them due to their cruelty being befitting of Saiyans, so he still betrays Paragus (a weak Saiyan) and concetrates on Goku's family, who he considers to also be unworthy.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71089: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:59:32 PM

All wonderful ideas right here.

We should mail this shit to Tohei. tongue

edited 8th Dec '17 6:59:48 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#71090: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:04:55 PM

The best thing about Broly was that storyline in Supersonic Warriors 2 where Mr. Satan manages to reform him and even prevent his PTSD from flaring up (as much) around Goku.

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#71091: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:06:45 PM

Only good thing about Broly was that a Pantera song was used as his theme. And even then that's only in the dub.

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Call me Blast, not Fedetropes
#71092: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:14:46 PM

[up][up]now I kinda want yo see fat buu, broly and hercule all hanging together.

¡PONLE QUE DIGA!:"¡HUMONGOSAURIO HASTA LA MUERTE!"
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#71093: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:14:58 PM

Broly is no worse than other movie villains that aren't named Beerus. They all either don't have much to them or are rehashes of main villains and the sheer vitriol hurled towards him specifically is only because of how popular he is.

edited 8th Dec '17 7:15:12 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71094: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:17:32 PM

Only good thing about Broly was that a Pantera song was used as his theme. And even then that's only in the dub.

I always knew the movie wasn't great, but I never realized how boring it really was until I saw it with that soundtrack gone.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#71096: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:22:14 PM

If there was anything good about any of the Broly movies, the second one graced us with the presence of Krillin wearing Piccolo's clothes.

The legend has returned.
Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#71097: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:23:31 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, I really don't get it when people complain about the dub soundtracks because at the end of the day, most of the Z movies are really fucking boring outside the fights.

[up]x4 Cooler had a wicked design and was actually different enough from his brother to be interesting in his own right that I almost wish they made him canon in Super than having Frieza as the Token Evil Teammate, and Doctor Wheelo was pretty unique for a Z villain.

edited 8th Dec '17 7:23:55 PM by Rynnec

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71098: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:25:30 PM

I always loved the English scores. They made the show sound so metal. [awesome]

[up] Now that would have been cool actually. Cooler joining in on the tournament.

edited 8th Dec '17 7:25:45 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71099: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:26:28 PM

[up][up]I think Broly is special though, because all the fighting is also terrible and boring.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#71100: Dec 8th 2017 at 7:36:49 PM

The music in this arc has gotten so good.


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