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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#71051: Dec 8th 2017 at 11:40:58 AM

But since the dragon came from Goku using the Dragon Fist wouldn't that make him the dragon since he conjured it as apart of his technique?

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#71052: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:02:01 PM

Why would they call it "Wrath of the Dragon" anyway? I think something like "Warrior of the Flute" or something describing Tapion would be more appropriate.

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#71053: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:08:21 PM

@Slimcoder.

It's not. Personally Cooler's 5th form looks like something out of an edgy 90s comic.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#71054: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:12:12 PM

[up] Eh it was from the 90's. Besides most people speak findly of it so I'll put it in the generally well liked pile like Super Saiyan 4.

[up][up] I'll assume cause "Wrath of the Dragon" just sounds cooler. This is Dragon Ball after all.

edited 8th Dec '17 1:12:38 PM by slimcoder

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#71055: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:14:35 PM

The Japanese title is "Dragon Ball Z: Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Can't Do It, Who Will" which... kind of leads me to believe they made a movie solely to hype up an attack.

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#71056: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:16:18 PM

Wrath of the Dragon is just the dub name. They wanted something less wordy than "Dragon Fist Explosion! If Goku can't do it, who will?" that sounded cool.

Naming it after Tapion is fine, but something like "Warrior of the Flute" is really misleading given that Tapion does next to no fighting.

[up] They actually came up with the titles first, as hype, then decided what the plot would be. It's possible they didn't even know Dragon Fist would be Goku's attack.

edited 8th Dec '17 1:21:00 PM by Saiga

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71057: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:18:47 PM

And "Warrior who doesn't do jack shit" is a lot less complimentary.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71058: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:28:24 PM

Also, on beating meta Cooler - it doesn't make sense for them to have more energy than the Big Gete Star can handle, what with the star able to mass produce guys stronger than Goku and Vegeta - but it's a damn cool scene and Cooler's freakout is great.

Fifth form Cooler is indeed awesome. it's great to see Toriyama do designs outside of his usual fair, showing how versatile he can be as an artist.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#71059: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:32:34 PM

"If I don't, who will!?!"

Is the best Dragon Ball related line...

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#71060: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:51:13 PM

The answer, though, should be "Gohan or Gotenks, as they're both far more powerful than you."

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#71061: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:53:02 PM

The Big Gete Star was the original Yakon. evil grin

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#71062: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:57:19 PM

I'm going to come right out and say it - the dub titles for the films are almost always waaaay better than the Japanese ones. For one, it's usually more clear what they're referring to.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71063: Dec 8th 2017 at 1:58:22 PM

Well, the second part is because the dub titles came about after actually knowing what the film is about. The other part is they're simply much more succinct, Japanese titles for movies/episodes usually end up being way too wordy and excited!!!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71064: Dec 8th 2017 at 2:08:37 PM

Fifth form Cooler is indeed awesome. it's great to see Toriyama do designs outside of his usual fair, showing how versatile he can be as an artist.

Wait? Toriyama did do second form Cooler? I didn't realize. That is impressive. I recant my previous statement.

That actually makes me like the design more. It really emphasizes Cooler's Black Sheep status (since he lacks the superficial politeness of Frieza and his father in the original version I've heard).

Him have an actual extra form (as opposed to revealing his true form) and one that's far more physically intimidating than his brother highlights the differences between them pretty well.

Good job Toriyama.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#71065: Dec 8th 2017 at 2:16:42 PM

[up][up] Yeah simplicity especially is better when dealing with titles. Light novels have this issue too since a lot of them are having a dick measuring contest to see who can call the longest sentence they can come up with a title.

[up] Indeed its a very impressive design. It has a lot of symbolism when you think of it like that.

edited 8th Dec '17 5:10:06 PM by slimcoder

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#71066: Dec 8th 2017 at 4:28:53 PM

In a way, coolers transformation reminds me of the saiyans great ape, a more bestial form.

Kinda like how the golden form invokes super saiyans.

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#71067: Dec 8th 2017 at 5:07:21 PM

[up][up] I remember reading an article about an LN competition (it was an article about how one company had ended up banning the Isekai genre) and the title of one winner was about a paragraph long and read like its Tv Tropes entry I kid you not.

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#71068: Dec 8th 2017 at 5:32:26 PM

I kinda think Cooler's 5th form is a bit edgy, but it's not overly designed and does look intimidating at least.

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#71069: Dec 8th 2017 at 5:38:23 PM

I dig the alien Shredder look.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#71070: Dec 8th 2017 at 5:39:00 PM

Toriyama's design. While I like him growing bigger, from this design I always thought Cooler might've been intended by Toriyama not to drastically change in size. Which would have been interesting.

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#71071: Dec 8th 2017 at 5:52:31 PM

There's a 404 there.

I do like the form as a nice contrast to Golden Freeza. Which is more of a conservative change.

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#71072: Dec 8th 2017 at 5:59:27 PM

Did you try refreshing/highlighted the text and pressing enter? Otherwise you can find the link to it on this page.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#71073: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:02:04 PM

Huh Broly could have had a tail.

Damn how much more berserk would Great Ape Broly be compared to regular Broly?

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#71074: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:06:55 PM

Anything's cooler than regular Broly. He has no interesting attacks, no cool martial arts moves, nothing. He's just a big beefy twat.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#71075: Dec 8th 2017 at 6:10:18 PM

Well thats kinda false.

His ki blasts have a somewhat unique visual flair, his ultimate's are basically nuke bombs, & his fighting style while all brute force is over the top brutal & more wrestling type.

edited 8th Dec '17 6:11:01 PM by slimcoder

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