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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70926: Dec 6th 2017 at 3:41:24 PM

I dunno, loss by truck isn't really a good way to go.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#70927: Dec 6th 2017 at 3:56:39 PM

But then he got carted around on the shoulders of the audience for such a great fight.

Plus, everyone (even the guy who won) agreed that he was the better fighter.

The truck was unfortunate, but I'd hardly say Goku lost much dignity on that.

If you want to go for an undignified loss, then I'd have to acknowledge the Vegeta fight (he couldn't win it on his own, was left with both legs broken, and had to beg Krillin to spare Vegeta so he'd have another chance to fight—and this time properly beat—Vegeta).

Even then, he accomplished his ultimate goal, stop the Saiyan invasion.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#70928: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:07:01 PM

Hmm... I wonder if there are any non-Goku fights in Dragon Ball that are close and make both combatants look good.

I guess there's #17 vs. Piccolo, but that doesn't really count since it was interrupted before it could come to a proper conclusion.

Gohan vs. Obuni?

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#70929: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:08:24 PM

Loss by truck? Are we talking about jojo again?

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#70930: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:14:44 PM

[up][up]Vegeta vs Magetta.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#70931: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:17:19 PM

[up] Ah, yeah. That's a good example.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#70932: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:19:30 PM

Chiaotzu vs Krillin, Roshi vs Tenshinhan, and Roshi vs Krillin are all pretty good, too.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70933: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:24:32 PM

It depends what you define as dignified.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#70934: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:27:20 PM

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks vs. Super Buu in its twisted way? And maybe the glipses we got of Vegeta vs. Toppo...

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#70935: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:29:00 PM

Goku V Krillin in the 22nd Budokai I'd say.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#70936: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:37:43 PM

I've been looking forward to Vegeta jobbing to Jiren this whole arc.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#70937: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:41:08 PM

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Well, Goku did pull that move where he flash stepped towards Krillin and knocked him out with multiple hits while making it look like he just made a funny face at him.

I mean, there was nothing malicious about it, but it was blatant showing off and punking Krillin a little.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#70938: Dec 6th 2017 at 4:58:29 PM

That's true but until that point it was Krillin matching Goku strike for strike.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#70939: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:03:58 PM

Except it became painfully obvious that Krillin was never matching Goku.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70940: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:11:55 PM

[up][up]It wasn't that simple...

It was more like Karrot was trying to match Kriller strike for blow....

But for the opposite reason...

edited 6th Dec '17 5:13:19 PM by randomness4

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#70941: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:25:24 PM

Yeah, Goku was holding back in that fight until Krillin demanded that he goes all out, at which point he punked him easily.

...And then it turned out that the "full power" he used against Krillin was only his full tournament power and he goes further still against Tien with his "real battle" power.

Goku has a long tradition of sandbagging is what I'm saying.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#70942: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:27:20 PM

Hot take: the best fights in Dragon Ball are 1-v-1s where the two fighters are either at the same level of strength or one of them is holding back to around the other's strength level.

When a 1-v-1 fight is a Curb-Stomp Battle, more often than not, it is boring to me. Neither character is really showing off their skill or talent and the winning character isn't being pushed or challenged in any way. I will never put Goku vs Recoome, Jeice, and Burter, Vegeta vs 19, 18 vs Vegeta, Vegeta vs Cell (either time), Cell vs Trunks, Gohan vs Cell (either half of the battle), or Buuhan vs Vegetto in my Top 10 favorite fights, because there's hardly ever a moment during these fights where there's a back-and-forth between the two as evenly matched fighters.

Some of these fights have utterly fantastic character moments with great writing and satisfying outcomes, but they aren't incredibly entertaining to me, as fights.

It's part of why I like the Buu Saga. Buu tends to holds back against his weaker opponents to have fun and play with them because he likes fighting. He holds back against Vegeta despite being more than 4 times stronger, he holds back against Gotenks and Goku, as indicated by him powering up right before the split, and he even holds back as Super Buu against Gotenks despite being about 8 times more powerful than him. When watching Buu fight, I very rarely got the impression that he was going all-out, and it's part of why Buu vs Basil is so good, despite Basil being utterly and completely outmatched throughout.

It's also partially why I really love the recent stuff in Super. Goku and Vegeta could utterly curbstomp almost all of their opponents just by breaking out their God forms but they don't, because they're Saiyans, and they're entertained by a relatively even fight just as much as I am. Instead, they try to test their limits in their lower forms and experience new abilities and techniques from weaker but still fun warriors that they wouldn't get if they just annihilated everyone as quickly as possible.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70943: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:33:05 PM

Was 18 vs Veggie a complete stomp?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70944: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:33:51 PM

[up] Yes.

She broke his arms with no effort for one.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70945: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:36:33 PM

It didn't seem like much of a stomp until the end...

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#70946: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:40:06 PM

They were basically even, but then Vegeta started getting tired from fighting all out and the tide turned.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70947: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:41:39 PM

Ah.

Damn those Androids are some tough bitches.

edited 6th Dec '17 5:45:26 PM by slimcoder

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#70948: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:44:15 PM

I thought she was toying with him a bit as well though.

I mean, he did start running out of gas, but there was an implication that she could have stomped him much sooner even without that.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#70949: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:48:48 PM

They were both holding back at first. Then they both started going all out, but Vegeta couldn't keep it up for very long and she started to overpower him.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#70950: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:50:04 PM

Is this where we put some sort of "she doesn't like men who can't last very long" joke?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

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