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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#70651: Dec 4th 2017 at 7:25:12 PM

The Father-Son Kamehameha for my most iconic image. 8 year old me lost his shit watching that. It's why when that particular episode came on Toonami a couple years back during April Fools, I felt such a surge of nostalgia.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#70652: Dec 4th 2017 at 7:58:11 PM

I thought it was cool too, but I feel like I'm also alone in thinking there was something seriously wrong with Gohan during his ultimate transformation. Like, he wasn't thinking straight, he was trying to kill buu using only physical blows, which he really should have known wouldn't work. Ki blasts were the only thing that ever seemed to do any significant damage to Buu and here the supposed scholar of the group is punching him and then taunting him while he's regenerating that damage.

If I have a legit complaint to the franchise its that it constantly drew from the tried and true "Character gets a power boost and immediately gets over-confident, leading to their defeat" well.

As for my favorite still shot, probably going with the tried and true first time Goku went Super Saiyan that and the subsequent death glare he gives Freeza.

edited 4th Dec '17 7:59:48 PM by Lionheart0

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70653: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:00:30 PM

That was mostly a Boo Saga thing wasn't it?

Besides being Vegetarian's trademark in the Cell saga

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70654: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:07:37 PM

Actually physical blows seem pretty effective on Boo. The most damage Evil Boo takes is from Gotenks wailing on him right before he defuses, and Pure Boo is able to wear down Fat Boo mostly with physical attacks (though Vegeta speculates it's because its another Boo doing the damage).

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#70655: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:08:41 PM

[up][up] Gohan did it against Perfect Cell as well.

TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#70656: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:08:48 PM

[up][up][up] Also Vegetas bravado in the Namek saga, against Zarbon, Frieza, and possibly Recoome. And Yamcha against the Saibamen. And Gohan against Perfect Cell just before punching 18 out of him. And Vegeta Against 18. And I'm sure Future Trunks or Future Gohan had that sort of moment too. Really as soon as the power plays started, so did the overconfidence.

edited 4th Dec '17 8:09:21 PM by TwistedGear

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70657: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:09:29 PM

[up][up][up]Which wouldn't make any sense and he doesn't have anything to base that on.

[up][up]Dat too.

[up]Nothing Veggie gets to him in Namek Saga is due to over confidence...telling Freeza to pull out his transformations is dumb but he never stood a chance regardless.

edited 4th Dec '17 8:11:57 PM by randomness4

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#70658: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:10:40 PM

And Gotenks against Super Buu. And you can argue that both Goku and Freeza did with Golden Freeza as well. tongue

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70659: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:13:18 PM

I did just use the Boo saga as a whole, because it's the theme.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70660: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:14:17 PM

Yeah. It's an issue I have as well, partly also because it makes the characters less distinct.

Hard to call it a major flaw of Vegeta's when every character does it.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70661: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:15:51 PM

Kakarrot doesn't do it...

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70662: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:21:39 PM

Goku only doesn't do it because he wins all the time.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70663: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:25:42 PM

Except for the time he gave up, lost, or ran out of time because he didn't think he had enough time.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70664: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:32:33 PM

I forgot he gave up against Perfect Cell.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#70665: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:34:45 PM

He gave up against Vegeta too. And Beerus.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70666: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:35:57 PM

He didn't so much give up against Vegeta, but rather beaten to the point where he could no longer oppose him.

Its ironic too. Vegeta is the poster boy for Always Second Best, but he completely won straight up against Goku in their first fight. Hell, Goku wasn't even the main reason he lost on Earth.

edited 4th Dec '17 8:36:33 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#70667: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:37:33 PM

Vegeta in Ozzaru form has a greater power level than anyone the gang would face till *Freeza*.

Honestly, it's a miracle Goku survived let alone was able to create the Spirit Bomb.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#70668: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:38:07 PM

Well, I don't think Vegeta would call that a win.

He had to resort to a strategy normally used for destroying entire planets against a single opponent, and one that was technically weaker than him at that since normal Goku is weaker than he is.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#70669: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:39:31 PM

[up],[up][up][up] I did like how that Saiyan Saga was concluded. Technically Vegeta won the fight against Goku but he had a complex over it because the Low Class Warrior forced Vegeta to resort to using a transformation specifically for conquering planets. tongue

edited 4th Dec '17 8:39:53 PM by Lionheart0

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70670: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:40:35 PM

The thing is though, Vegeta didn't even have to do that. Goku was still reeling from the x3 Kaioken. If Vegeta wasn't so pissed off, he could have just beaten Goku then and there.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#70671: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:41:32 PM

Logical thoughts got thrown out the window, he was swinging wild.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#70672: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:41:55 PM

[up][up]

...

Years I've been a fan of this series, and that never occurred to me. That's actually pretty hilarious.

edited 4th Dec '17 8:42:06 PM by HandsomeRob

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70673: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:42:17 PM

[up][up][up] Heh Veggie got too scared & pissed so he went ape-shit too early.

"And how many Goku's have you beaten?" tongue

edited 4th Dec '17 8:42:47 PM by slimcoder

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70674: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:44:00 PM

The even funnier part is that Vegeta wasn't even as obsessed with Goku until the Android arc. He was pissed, but he prioritized opposing Freeza and becoming immortal than beating or one-upping Goku.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#70675: Dec 4th 2017 at 8:44:28 PM

Vegeta doesn't really get an inferiority complex towards KAKAROTTTT until Goku touches down on Namek and wipes out three members of the Ginyu Force while not breaking a sweat.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

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